Dutchess County Fire Test

[foreman1923 22]

Does anybody have any idea when the next test is for arlington or city of poughkeepsie

[Guest DFC278]

Does anybody have any idea when the next test is for arlington or city of poughkeepsie

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The next test is scheduled for June 3rd of this year.

[foreman1923 22]

Is the city of poughkeepsie strict on residency ?

[27east 19]

What other departments have career FF's in Dutchess?

[Porsha911gt3 8]

Don't Quote me on this but I believe the following departments have Carreer Staff:

City of Beacon

Lagrange

New Hackensack (only one)

Castle Point

Dutchess County Airport

IBM

That is all I can think of, and If I am wrong about any of these someone please correct me.

[TAPSJ 30]

City of Beacon

Lagrange

New Hackensack (only one)

Castle Point

Dutchess County Airport

IBM

Also,

Arlington

Fairview

City Of Poughkeepsie

Greenhaven (possiblly)

[xfirefighter484x 234]

From my understanding, Pleasant Valley also has a few staffed guys. Also, if I am wrong about this, someone please correct me. IBM is a private Fire Brigade. As far as I know, they do not hire off of a Civil Service list, they have their own separate application and hiring process.

What is the deal with Castle Point. Are they a Federal FD? If so I doubt they would hire off of a county list. And what about Greenhaven. I am not sure if they are a fire brigade as well, excluding them from a county civil service list.

City of Beacon, Arlington, Fairview, and LaGrange are all combination districts or departments.

City of Poughkeepsie is a fully career department, although I have heard a rumor that there is still (1) volunteer with them, if anyone can clarify this for me.

Edited January 21, 2006 by xfirefighter484x

[TAPSJ 30]

IBM is seprate from the County testing, but the way to get in is to know someone and after that you wait to fill a fired or retired or transfer spot.

[TRUCK6018 50]

The IBM complex has their own fire brigade that does not hire from the list. In fact, they just posted an ad in last weeks Poughkeepsie Journal. It is not IBM that does the staffing, it's the property management for the IBM complex.

Castle Point is a federal position that has it's own testing through the Hudson Valley Veterans Affairs. The testing is done for both Montrose and Castle Point VA sites.

[xfirefighter484x 234]

The IBM complex has their own fire brigade that does not hire from the list.  In fact, they just posted an ad in last weeks Poughkeepsie Journal.  It is not IBM that does the staffing, it's the property management for the IBM complex.

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Thanks for the info Truck6018. I knew I was somewhat right along those lines. The ad in the Poughkeepsie Journal the other week was for the contract security firm that works for IBM. My understanding is that IBM only staffs/staffed 3 guys on a shift, and to comply with CFR 1910.134, they need 4 guys for the "2 in, 2 out". So, this company hired a security guard with the proper qualifications who, if and when a fire call goes out, runs over and acts as the 4th guy.

[Guest DFC278]

Is the city of poughkeepsie strict on residency ?

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Yes they are.

[AFD_32_4 0]

the city of poughkeepsie and Arlington are strict on residency

[x129K 1,393]

PVFD has 3 career guys....

PFD has a Vollie Logistics Chief - "Car 5"

[ohbdow1 6]

Greenhaven as well as the other correctional facilities have Fire Brigades that are staffed with Correction Officers. Some facilities offer specialized teams such as: Greenhaven with Wild Fire Crews (made up with inmates under supervision), also they have Dutchess County's only Confined Space Rescue Team (made up only with Correctional Staff). Fishkill and Downstate Correctional Facility's also have Fire Brigades. Sing Sing in Ossining is sending its Brigade to FF 1 at Valhala for complete training.

[Turborich 12]

Ok so here's some summative + definative info on career positions in the D.C. for the n00bs-

Municipal Fire Depts. that have career staff (all are combination.. including City Fire.. which does have one Volunteer who has seen more fire than most of us combined)-

The Dutchess County Department of Emergency Response

Arlington

City of Beacon

Fairview

Lagrange

New Hackensack (1)

Pleasant Valley (3 FFs)

City of Poughkeepsie

Other paid positons-

Castle Point (DOD)

IBM Poughkeepsie (Grubb + Ellis)

IBM East Fishkill (IBM)

The Correctional Facilities (not really career Fire staff but staffed by paid C.O. employees mostly) (NYS DOC)

Dutchess County Airport (Maintenence also I believe)

The IBM facility jobs are completely different from each other, the East Fishkill facility has IBM hired FFs (a resume, a spot from attrition, and a prayer will get you hired there), the Poughkeepsie site contracts with Grubb and Ellis... an independant contractor (who is the one with the ads in the paper).

Castle Point is a DOD job (Department of Defense) which would be announced on the DOD website (so watch it closely).... Resume job... and follow all directions closely regarding the resume outline and interview process (the feds don't screw around).

Airport ARFF crews are Maintenence/refueling crews from my understanding that are cross trained (these guys really have their stuff together though...lots of training)... not really sure about the particulars about the job (whether independant contractors or actual airport employees). Anyone in the know please interject...

As far as the municipalities they are Civil Service positions... thus residence preferred and you must be on the firefighters list. To get on this you must take a test offered by the Dutchess County Department Personnel every ~4 years. You must be over 18 years of age. The test is announced on the Dept. of Personnel's website a few months before testing, and the date and test is the same as Westchester's test. You must score a passing grade and then, if in a preferred position in a district (score and legal residency... and yes, they do check residency and are STRICT), you must pass a physical exam called the FPAT (Firefighter Physical Ability Test... alot like CPAT) every year to stay on that list.

If all checks out and you are fortunate enough to get a canvass letter you go to the interview (and either before or after MUST pass a mandatory physical + drug screening).

Then you get the job and go to probie school... sounds easy right?

Anyway, there are also positions at the 911 center (Dutchess County 911 and City of Poughkeepsie) for dispatcher... this is also a great job and also a civil service residency preferred position with about the same process (with slightly alternate testing procedures and sans physical agility test) than firefighter.

And then there's always Commercial EMS... If you are dead set on working in the D.C. you can work your way up seniority in any of the commercial EMS companies and get a shift in one of the following towns as a 911 only municipal contract provider;

Beacon Volunteer-Alamo

Beekman-Alamo

Dover- Northern Dutchess Paramedics (NDP)

East Fishkill- Mobile Life (MLSS)

Fairview-Alamo

Village of Fishkill- MLSS

Millbrook- Alamo

Pawling- Alamo

Pleasant Valley- Alamo

Union Vale- NDP

Wappingers (Town of- Hughsonville, Chelsea, New Hackensack)- Transcare

I think that's all for EMS, but that's subject to change with contractural negotiations, funding, the direction of wind , etc.... There are also municipal COVERAGE areas for the above providers but are not dedicated 911 busses to that municipality and are subject to relocation (although even some of the above are not always DEFINATELY DEDICATED due to the system status management concept).

Oh well, hopefully that will clarify any questions.

-Turbo

[Guest]

Ok so here's some summative + definative info on career positions in the D.C. for the n00bs-

Municipal Fire Depts. that have career staff (all are combination.. including City Fire.. which does have one Volunteer who has seen more fire than most of us combined)-

The Dutchess County Department of Emergency Response

Arlington

City of Beacon

Fairview

Lagrange

New Hackensack (1)

Pleasant Valley (3 FFs)

City of Poughkeepsie

Other paid positons-

Castle Point (DOD)

IBM Poughkeepsie (Grubb + Ellis)

IBM East Fishkill (IBM)

The Correctional Facilities (not really career Fire staff but staffed by paid C.O. employees mostly) (NYS DOC)

Dutchess County Airport (Maintenence also I believe)

The IBM facility jobs are completely different from each other, the East Fishkill facility has IBM hired FFs (a resume, a spot from attrition, and a prayer will get you hired there), the Poughkeepsie site contracts with Grubb and Ellis... an independant contractor (who is the one with the ads in the paper).

Castle Point is a DOD job (Department of Defense) which would be announced on the DOD website (so watch it closely).... Resume job... and follow all directions closely regarding the resume outline and interview process (the feds don't screw around).

Airport ARFF crews are Maintenence/refueling crews from my understanding that are cross trained (these guys really have their stuff together though...lots of training)... not really sure about the particulars about the job (whether independant contractors or actual airport employees). Anyone in the know please interject...

As far as the municipalities they are Civil Service positions... thus residence preferred and you must be on the firefighters list. To get on this you must take a test offered by the Dutchess County Department Personnel every ~4 years. You must be over 18 years of age. The test is announced on the Dept. of Personnel's website a few months before testing, and the date and test is the same as Westchester's test. You must score a passing grade and then, if in a preferred position in a district (score and legal residency... and yes, they do check residency and are STRICT), you must pass a physical exam called the FPAT (Firefighter Physical Ability Test... alot like CPAT) every year to stay on that list.

If all checks out and you are fortunate enough to get a canvass letter you go to the interview (and either before or after MUST pass a mandatory physical + drug screening).

Then you get the job and go to probie school... sounds easy right? 

Anyway, there are also positions at the 911 center (Dutchess County 911 and City of Poughkeepsie) for dispatcher... this is also a great job and also a civil service residency preferred position with about the same process (with slightly alternate testing procedures and sans physical agility test) than firefighter.

And then there's always Commercial EMS... If you are dead set on working in the D.C. you can work your way up seniority in any of the commercial EMS companies and get a shift in one of the following towns as a 911 only municipal contract provider;

Beacon Volunteer-Alamo

Beekman-Alamo

Dover- Northern Dutchess Paramedics (NDP)

East Fishkill- Mobile Life (MLSS)

Fairview-Alamo

Village of Fishkill- MLSS

Millbrook- Alamo

Pawling- Alamo

Pleasant Valley- Alamo

Union Vale- NDP

Wappingers (Town of- Hughsonville, Chelsea, New Hackensack)- Transcare

I think that's all for EMS, but that's subject to change with contractural negotiations, funding,  the direction of wind , etc.... There are also municipal COVERAGE areas for the above providers but are not dedicated 911 busses to that municipality and are subject to relocation (although even some of  the above are not always DEFINATELY DEDICATED due to the system status management concept).

Oh well, hopefully that will clarify any questions.

-Turbo

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Nice job on the details Turbo!!! but CP is Dept of vet affairs not dod.

[Turborich 12]

Nice job on the details Turbo!!! but CP is Dept of vet affairs not dod.

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Thank you for pissing in my Corn Flakes Mr. President Must I remind you of a certain speech, or maybe Air 11?

kthanksbye

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Does anybody have any idea when the next test is for arlington or city of poughkeepsie

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Dutchess County's next Firefighter Test

Dutchess County Personnel Web Site

Dutchess County Application For Employment / Test

Personnel Department Announces

Open Competitive Examination

Title: Firefighter

Firefighter/Paramedic

Number: 62270

Salary: Firefighter:

$36,032.16 – Arlington Fire District (2005 Salary)

$39,016 – City of Beacon (2005 Salary)

$43,505.28 – Fairview Fire District

$40,970 – LaGrange Fire District

$30,000 – New Hackensack Fire District

$28,500 – Pleasant Valley Fire District

$36,109.38 – City of Poughkeepsie

Firefighter/Paramedic:

$41,232.19 – Arlington Fire District (2005 Salary)

If used in other agencies salary varies.

Salaries posted are for informational purposes only.

Date of Examination: 06/03/06

Application Accepted Until: 5/12/2006

Applications postmarked 05/12/06will be accepted.

Applications accepted until 4:30 pm Monday through Friday

Administration of an exam does not imply a vacancy exists.

A $25.00 fee is required for each separately numbered examination Either a check or money order payable to "Commissioner of Finance" with your social security number, the examination number, and examination title on the check or money order. Separate checks or money orders must be submitted with each application. If you are unemployed and primarily responsible for the support of a household, the fee will be waived.

Read the announcement carefully, the application processing fee will not be refunded to disapproved applicants.

Vacancy: The eligible list established as a result of this examination will be used, when appropriate, to fill vacancies as they occur in all units under the jurisdiction of the Dutchess County Personnel Department.

RESIDENCE PREFERENCE – FIREFIGHTER: At this time most agencies give preference in appointment to candidates who are residents of their district for at least 30 days prior to the date of certification of the eligible list. Such residence preference is the policy of each individual fire agency and not subject to the control of the Dutchess County Personnel Department. Fire district boundaries can be found on the Dutchess County website (www.co.dutchess.ny.us) under the Department of Emergency Response.

RESIDENCE PREFERENCE – FIREFIGHTER/PARAMEDIC: No residence preference is required for Firefighter/Paramedic in the Arlington Fire District.

Minimum Qualifications:

MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS - FIREFIGHTER: Candidates must meet the following requirements on or before September 1, 2006:

Graduation from high school or possession of a high school equivalency diploma or GED certificate.

NOTE: Satisfactory work experience for a public or private agency or military service may be substituted for high school on a year-for-year basis.

MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS – FIREFIGHTER/PARAMEDIC: Candidates must meet the following requirements on or before September 1, 2006:

Graduation from high school or possession of a high school equivalency diploma or GED certificate. (Satisfactory work experience for a public or private agency or military service may be substituted for high school on a year-for-year basis.)

PLUS the following:

Certification by N.Y.S. Department of Health as an Emergency Medical Technician – Paramedic (EMT-P), PLUS two (2) years of post-certification full-time paid field experience as a medic.

NOTE: Candidates may substitute one year of full-time paid experience as an RN or Physician’s Assistant in an emergency room or critical care setting, which would include emergency care or the coronary care unit, for one year of the above medic experience.

Special Requirements:

SPECIAL REQUIREMENTS – FIREFIGHTER:

1. Age: Candidates shall not be less than 18 years of age at time of appointment.

2. Physical Fitness: Candidates must meet standards established by the Commissioner of Personnel.

3. Driver’s License: Eligibility for a driver’s license issued by the State of New York. Possession of the license at the time of appointment.

4. Emergency Medical Technician: An appointing authority may require candidates to acquire an appropriate level of certification by New York State Department of Health as an Emergency Medical Technician. This certification must be maintained during the course of service.

SPECIAL REQUIREMENTS – FIREFIGHTER/PARAMEDIC:

1. Age: Candidates shall not be less than 18 years of age at time of appointment.

2. Physical Fitness: Candidates must meet standards established by the Commissioner of Personnel.

3. Possession of current CPR card and current ACLS certification at time of appointment and to maintain position.

4. Candidates must possess Hudson Valley Regional Emergency Medical Advisory Committee (HVREMAC) Certification at time of appointment and to maintain position.

5. Driver’s License: Eligibility for a driver’s license issued by the State of New York. Possession of the license at time of appointment.

Duties:

DUTIES (FIREFIGHTER): The work involves responsibility for fighting fires and responding to other emergency situations.

DUTIES (FIREFIGHTER/PARAMEDIC): This work involves responsibility for fighting fires, responding to other emergency situations and acting as the primary care giver in the emergency care of the sick and injured being treated by the fire district.

Examples of Work (Illustrative Only):

EXAMPLES OF WORK (Illustrative Only) - FIREFIGHTER: Responds to fire alarms and emergency calls with fire company and performs a variety of dangerous fire fighting activities; drives and operates motor-driven fire fighting equipment; connects hose lines and nozzles; assists in giving emergency first aid treatment to injured persons; performs a variety of tasks in connection with the maintenance and repair of buildings and grounds; performs fire inspections for fire prevention; may function as an Emergency Medical Technician; does related work as required.

EXAMPLES OF WORK (Illustrative Only) – FIREFIGHTER/PARAMEDIC: When assigned as a Paramedic: Receives emergency calls from the dispatcher and responds accordingly; takes histories and performs physical exams as indicated on patients in the field, often under less than ideal conditions; develops workable diagnoses based on available information; initiates indicated treatment modalities and supervises all persons on the scene involved with patient care, unless the Director of Emergency Medical Services is present; writes reports documenting the situation at the scene , examination results, orders received, treatments rendered, and other pertinent information; communicates with patient’s family and friends at the scene and with other health team members in the community and at the hospital; checks, cleans and maintains all EMS-related equipment; participates in training programs, both as instructors and as participants for ongoing skills training.

Subject of Examination:

Written test will cover knowledge, skills, and/or abilities in such areas as:

1. Mechanical reasoning - The questions in this subtest will be accompanied by sketches or descriptions of various mechanical devices, hand tools, dials or gauges. The candidate may be required to demonstrate an understanding of how the devices work or of the underlying mechanical principles involved in the devices' operation; or be required to recognize, or know the use for, various tools or devices; and also be required to make accurate readings of dials and gauges. The various devices, tools, gauges, etc., pictured or described in this subtest are commonly used and not limited to use in the fire service.

2. Solving problems involving numbers - This subtest requires the candidate to use addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division to solve problems that might be encountered in fire service activities. In some of the questions, sketches of simple geometric figures may be shown or simple geometric terms used. The problems are presented in the context of the job. Knowledge of fire fighting is not required. Formulas or equations will be provided where required.

3. Understanding and interpreting graphs, charts, tables and diagrams and following written instructions - These questions test for the ability to understand information that is presented in graphs or tables and to follow written directions. You will be given questions that cover such areas as graphs, charts, tables, diagrams, and operating instructions for devices. You must locate information on these charts, tables, or diagrams or follow instructions for operating devices in order to answer the questions. All the information required to answer a question is provided. Specialized knowledge of the subject matter is not required to answer the questions successfully.

4. Understanding and interpreting written material pertaining to fire - The questions in this subtest test how well the candidate comprehends written material. The candidate is provided with brief reading selections, followed by a set of alternative statements relating to each selection. The candidate is to indicate the most appropriate statement relating to the selection on the basis of whether it: a. accurately paraphrases portions of the selection; or b. adequately summarizes the selection; or c. presents an inference that can reasonably be drawn from the selection. The reading selections are drawn from a variety of sources related to the fire fighting field. Knowledge of the subject matter of the reading selection is generally not related to successfully answering the questions.

A “Guide to the Written Test for the Firefighter Series” is available on the New York State Department of Civil Service website at www.cs.state.ny.us/jobseeker/local/testguides.cfm, or you can pick up a copy of the guide at the Dutchess County Personnel Department, Dutchess County Office Building – 5th floor, 22 Market Street, Poughkeepsie, NY 12601.

FIREFIGHTER PHYSICAL ABILITY TEST (FPAT) EVENTS:

The Firefighter Physical Ability Test consists of eight events that require candidates to perform simulations of the activities that are part of the firefighter’s job. During all events, you will wear a weighted vest, which simulates the equipment and breathing apparatus that a firefighter normally wears during these types of activities. In addition, the first event requires the candidate to carry an additional 25 pounds. These events require cardiovascular fitness, muscle strength, muscular endurance and flexibility. This test is stressful and may be dangerous to your health. Therefore, you will be required to get medical clearance from your physician before participating in this physical ability test. The events are described below.

1. Stair Climb: Participant must climb and descend four flights of stairs, wearing an extra 25 pounds (75 lbs. total). At the top of the stairs, candidate hoists rope fastened to a 2-1/2” hose up to 5th floor and brings nozzle through into the window.

2. Hose Drag: Candidate will grasp nozzle of a 200 feet long extension of dry hose, place the hose line over the shoulder, and drag the hose for 100 feet making one 90 degree turn around an obstacle. Candidate will stop, drop to one or both knees and pull 50 additional feet of hose to the finish line.

3. Equipment Carry: Candidate will remove two saws from cabinet that is 48” off the ground, and place them on the ground. The candidate will then pick both saws up, one in each hand, and carry them while walking 75’ around a cone then back to the starting point.

4. Ladder Raise and Extension: Candidate will walk to top rung of a 24 foot aluminum extension ladder which is lying on the ground, lift in a hand over hand fashion and place it against a wall. The candidate must then raise a secured ladder and extend it using the fly section and then lower it using a hand over hand, controlled fashion.

5. Forcible Entry Simulation: Candidate will use a 10 pound sledgehammer and strike a weighted tire in a horizontal direction on a waist high table, 35” high. The tire is to move from start position to end position as marked.

6. Search: Candidate will navigate on hands and knees over and around obstacles through a dark 3’ x 4’ tunnel, which is 64 feet long.

7. Rescue: Candidate will drag a 165-pound mannequin for 70 feet.

8. Ceiling Breach and Pull: Candidate will alternately push and pull an overhead, hinged door using a pike pole for four repetitions of 3 pushes and pulls.

The protocol for the FPAT will be available at the test site on June 3, 2006. The FPAT is similar to the CPAT that is administered at the Fire Training Academy. The requirements for CPAT are available on www.calgary.ca (Search for CPAT).

No: 66-06

Issued: 04/04/06

DUTCHESS COUNTY IS AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY/AFFIRMATIVE ACTION EMPLOYER.

[CAM502 6]

Those salaries that you listed are the top pay??