White Plains Drill School ERA 1959 Photos

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WP Drill School ERA 59

Training with ropes , Over the Top.

Edited August 21, 2013 by TR54

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Cool Photos.

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Thanks For Assist Tim

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That 1948 American Lafrance ladder is a White Planes rig ? Looks like it from the door marking. Never knew they had a mid mount.

Edited August 21, 2013 by PCFD ENG58

[tommyguy 104]

The truck looks like Ladder 1 from Station 6.

Great photos. Does anyone know who the instructor is?

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The Burn building had a wood supported roof. If you drilled there you had to make sure your fires didn't get too big or you would be buying a roof

[fire 1 asst chief 49]

The instructor is Lt. Fred Simone he passed away a couple of years ago.

[fire 1 asst chief 49]

White Plains had 2 mid mounts back in the day. One was a 100' that ran out of headquarters.

The other was a 85' that ran out of old station 2 on Hamilton Ave. When the tiller was purchased around 1956 (57) the 85' was reassigned to Sta. 7 on North St. I think they both eventually found their way to Hartsdale.

[tommyguy 104]

White Plains had 2 mid mounts back in the day. One was a 100' that ran out of headquarters. The other was a 85' that ran out of old station 2 on Hamilton Ave. When the tiller was purchased around 1956 (57) the 85' was reassigned to Sta. 7 on North St.

Thanks for identifying the officer in the photo as Lt. DeSimone. I remember the name and hearing about him. He was very highly regarded as I recall.

Does the ladder in the photo look like Truck 1 to you?

I remember seeing the old ALF mid-mount at Station 7, I had a buddy named Victor Price who worked there back in the 1970s. I think he was assigned to Eng. 7 (71), though, not to the truck. He was working Eng 7 one night when there was a working fire at the Hillaire Riding stables. A fire-damaged wooden beam came down on him though luckily his Scott Air-Pak took the brunt of it.

I wonder what type of ladder truck the ALF mid-mount replaced at Station 7. Would you happen to know?

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Photos Contributed - Posted for pjm1733.

Era 1959.

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That looks like 100ft, hard to see but looks like bed and 3 flys.

[fire 1 asst chief 49]

The 85' that went to station 7 didn't replace another ladder, when the station opened in the mid 50s it was a single engine house perhaps by design since the apparatus floor is narrow for two rigs.

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old one

Edited August 22, 2013 by pjm1733

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[tommyguy 104]

The 85' that went to station 7 didn't replace another ladder, when the station opened in the mid 50s it was a single engine house perhaps by design since the apparatus floor is narrow for two rigs.

I was not aware of that. Of course Station 7 was locally famous as the firehouse that doesn't LOOK like a firehouse. I remember as a young kid my Dad or someone driving us out to Ridgeway to see it. That might've been just before Truck 3 was put in service. We pulled in on the apron for a minute although I don't remember if there was just a single engine there.

Chief maybe you can answer a question I've had for a long time.

How did Headquarters on Mam'k Avenue become Station 6 while Prescott Avenue (Old Mam'k Rd) was designated Station 1? It always seemed like HQ predated Station 1. I always wondered if originally HQ was just 'Headquarters,' and maybe later on was designated Station 6 as the next available number. In fact possibly someone at WPFD told me that as the guys back then were fairly tolerant of kids hanging around and I used to ask tons of questions. But after so many years....

[fire 1 asst chief 49]

Truck 2, 1956 (7) tractor drawn aerial.

Personnel unknown.

Lettering on door missing ??

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Looks like a acton shot ! better remove the wheel chocks on the rear axle!

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Lt Bogart

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1957, As the name Amercain La France is spelled out on the jump seats and on the noise. 1948 -1956 700 sr did not have this and as the engines from 1957 on till the 900's in 1959 the 800's had the same. The ladder trucks no mater what size from 1948 till 1958 all were 700's.

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Lieutenant Ed Bogart, his son Lieutenant Bob Bogart was on the job (retired), as is his grandson Lt. Scott Bogart.

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Lieutenant Ed Bogart, his son Lieutenant Bob Bogart was on the job (retired), as is his grandson Lt. Scott Bogart.

and Scott's brother Wayne was a cop and Wayne son Chris is best friends with my son Patrick both gonna bees

Edited August 23, 2013 by pjm1733

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Lt. Bob Bogart visiting the fire house as a child

Edited August 23, 2013 by fyrlt17

[fire 1 asst chief 49]

Great Pix of Bob Bogart.

Driver Max Pruner ??

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I was not aware of that. Of course Station 7 was locally famous as the firehouse that doesn't LOOK like a firehouse. I remember as a young kid my Dad or someone driving us out to Ridgeway to see it. That might've been just before Truck 3 was put in service. We pulled in on the apron for a minute although I don't remember if there was just a single engine there.

Chief maybe you can answer a question I've had for a long time.

How did Headquarters on Mam'k Avenue become Station 6 while Prescott Avenue (Old Mam'k Rd) was designated Station 1? It always seemed like HQ predated Station 1. I always wondered if originally HQ was just 'Headquarters,' and maybe later on was designated Station 6 as the next available number. In fact possibly someone at WPFD told me that as the guys back then were fairly tolerant of kids hanging around and I used to ask tons of questions. But after so many years....

Back in High School 77-80 we would stop by( in-between classes) Station 7 using the back door and use the (candy machine) . The Firemen where very cool as long as you did not leave a mess . Guess what, nobody I knew ever caused a problem.

Tommy, as you know each fire house "had" a coinciding engine with the firehouse number, Engine 1 Station 1. I am not going to pretend to be some kind of expert on it, but seeing no body else wants to chime in. I will try my theory,but now watch all the responses. In the beginning each fire house had it own name example South Side Engine Co # 4 was Station 4, East Side Engine Co Station 3, Pretty sure it was Chatterton Hose Co Station 5 But it was on Robertson av. <<<<<Scratching Head . Fire Patrol Co Station 1 and so on. @ some point they just numbered the engines with the stations and Headquarters Station 6 began its dual identity,because that's where the Chief was Located. I think the Vollys still use those names today .

I have always been a believer in " if you cant dazzle the with brilliance" Baffle them with, well you know the rest .

as a bonus for putting up with my rant here is a pick that was sent to me today by a friend (Titled Protection From Today)

Engine -71 Rescue-88 Ladder-32 2512

Car-17 Truck 1 Patrol Supervisors

Ambulance -1 Ambulance-3 EMS Supervisor

deck collapse 2 minor injuries transported to WP hosp

Edited August 25, 2013 by pjm1733

[fire 1 asst chief 49]

After just reading the history of the White Plains FD up to 1955 I would say PJM1733 is pretty much on target.

Station 7 being the last new fire station to be built was most likely just assigned that number to be in chronological order.

[TheNewLadder32 49]

After just reading the history of the White Plains FD up to 1955 I would say PJM1733 is pretty much on target.

Station 7 being the last new fire station to be built was most likely just assigned that number to be in chronological order.

May I ask where you read about the history at ? I would definitely like to check it out myself. Thanks in advance

[fire 1 asst chief 49]

Let me see what I can do about getting you a copy.