New FDNY Pumpers

[FDNY 10-75 640]

City/Town/Municipality/Dept: FDNY

Unit designation/identifier: Engines

Chassis & Body (or Aerial) Manufacturer and model: TBD

Pump size, tank size (water/foam), aerial type & length: 2000/500

Estimated delivery date: 2013-

Status: Out to bid

Notes: Three year contract calling for 91 total 2000gpm pumpers with 500 gallon tanks. 38 to be delivered the first year, 48 the second and 5 the third. Bidders include Seagrave, Ferrara and KME.

[vegasbuff 1]

Saw on other sites online

KME is going to be awarded the bid

[sfrd18 360]

Saw on other sites online

KME is going to be awarded the bid

Also saw it on several sites that KME has been awarded the bid, and Seagrave has been awarded the bid for the new squads, tower ladders, and tillers.

[M' Ave 1,466]

Word is that the KME story is a rumor.

Until you see a manufacturer toting the bid on their website, ect, I'd be skeptical.

[Alwaysinheat 26]

We were just told we will be getting a new KME in a year or so at our house from the guys down at shops

Edited April 28, 2012 by Alwaysinheat

[vegasbuff 1]

Any updates on the big pumper contract as yet? See nothing about it on KME's site yet

What prompted FDNY to go to 2000 GPM from the old standard 1000 GPM in the last few years? curious

[ny10570 745]

There were a lot of problems moving water immediately after 9/11. By buying 2000gpm pumps any engine can be a source or relay pumper. Its relatively cheap compared to adding more satellite engines.

[M' Ave 1,466]

KME engines are starting to come in. CTS has a new rig and it's been delivered to the shops. ID #KE14001.

http://postimg.org/image/j8zsyoy5j/

Engine 97 is almost complete/

http://postimg.org/image/gbwyw02k9/

I can't credit the photos, they're posted elsewhere with no credit. One appears to be courtesy of the Milton Fire Dept.

[Bottom of Da Hill 76]

KME engines are starting to come in. CTS has a new rig and it's been delivered to the shops. ID #KE14001.

http://postimg.org/image/j8zsyoy5j/

Engine 97 is almost complete/

http://postimg.org/image/gbwyw02k9/

I can't credit the photos, they're posted elsewhere with no credit. One appears to be courtesy of the Milton Fire Dept.

they look like seagraves to me.

[M' Ave 1,466]

they look like seagraves to me.

Yup....pretty close. From the cab back they're essentially identical. From the cab forward.....some slight cosmetic differences. Very small stuff. Front windshield angle, crew cab doors, little stuff.

[Apollo C. Vermouth 1]

Any chance it (these) were given to FDNY as a demo rig like Ferrarra did after 911? They never made it beyond the rock.

[mfc2257 464]

Any chance it (these) were given to FDNY as a demo rig like Ferrarra did after 911? They never made it beyond the rock.

KME won the competitive bid (low bid) and was awarded a contract for these as did Ferrara for nearly all the rigs in service. I believe engine 54 was the only one donated by Ferrara and it served in midtown for some time.

Edited July 6, 2014 by mfc2257

[M' Ave 1,466]

KME won the competitive bid (low bid) and was awarded a contract for these as did Ferrara for nearly all the rigs in service. I believe engine 54 was the only one donated by Ferrara and it served in midtown for some time.

It also served in E283 before going back to the rock.

The first KME engine is in service with several more to come this month.

[goon16 155]

54 had one of 3 Ferrara high pressure pumpers 26 and 258 had the others those rigs were 2003s.

I'm pretty sure they didn't have one loaner

Edited July 9, 2014 by goon16

[PCFD ENG58 1,085]

New to the company not a loaner or donated rig

Edited July 9, 2014 by PCFD ENG58

[goon16 155]

Yeah never had a loaner or one of the emergency orders after 9-11

[RWC130 594]

FDNY is very happy with the new KME's

This is direct from a close friend who is a FDNY mechanic with

26 years on the job.

[16fire5 693]

FDNY is very happy with the new KME's

This is direct from a close friend who is a FDNY mechanic with

26 years on the job.

No they are not.

[everybodygoes 331]

Yeah happy because of the overtime they create!

[16fire5 693]

Yeah happy because of the overtime they create!

Technically no because KME is responsible for the rigs showing up that suck under the 5 year warranty.

[pump305 53]

How can they be happy if non are in service yet?

[Mac8146 61]

Right now E153 has a KME and every day units that are in line for new rig are at the Rock training on the first KME which assigned to Rock as training rig. Within next few months more rigs will be placed in service.

[RWC130 594]

Partial list of Seagrave Pumpers to be replaced.

FDNY Apparatus ID / Engine Co.

SP 02021 E 287

SP 02023 E 274

SP 02025 E 268

SP 02026 E 295

SP 02027 E 60

SP 02028 E 89

SP 02030 E 153

SP 02031 E 97

SP 02032 E 251

SP 02033 E 70

SP 02034 E 71

SP 02035 E 83

SP 02036 E 52

SP 02037 E 220

SP 02038 E 306

SP 02039 E 224

SP 02040 E 228

SP 02041 E 259

SP 02042 E 313

SP 02043 E 247

SP 02044 E 262

SP 02045 E 286

SP 03001 E 319

New KME's currently IN SERVICE are E153 and one at CTS (as mentioned previously)

No they are not.

16fire5 I will have to check with my friend. The infomation "very happy" I was told a FDNY Mechanic.

Obviously feedback from the Firefighters and Officers will start coming in.

Do you have anymore information? I am curious. Thanks.

[M' Ave 1,466]

Of the rigs on your list, those up to Eng. 89 have already been replaced with 2014 Seagrave engines. They were part of a post Sandy add-on order.

Eng. 153 has a new KME in service and Eng. 97 may also have theirs in service as well.

All companies through (at least) Eng. 52 have completed new apparatus training and expect thier new rig anyday.

I've driven the KME (KP14001) a couple times and I thought it drove really well. Nicer cab set-up for the chauffeur than the Seagrave. Nothing major, just a couple little things. There were a few cab and body components that felt A LITTLE cheap, but we'll see.

[HeavyRescueMan80 17]

Did The New Engine 54 Go On Line Yet ?

[goon16 155]

Yeah it's in service

[pump305 53]

Go on you tube and new E 54 2000 GPM high presure Seagrave. Also E 153 new KME.