Comments on Video Posted by Chris192

[xfirefighter484x 234]

Original thread:

http://www.emtbravo.net/index.php?showtopic=37938

Since commenting has been disabled for photo and video threads, to my dismay, I have created this thread for related discussions:

I am shocked that something happened in Congress other than a filibuster, and low energy mumbling and BS political procedure...

[Bnechis 3,961]

We need more of that

[ohbdow1 6]

The facts are that there is a majority party in charge. They did not need the opposition to pass this.

The facts are that at the last minute, they changed the votes needed to pass it (218) to (290). 2/3 instead of a simple majority. If they did not change the rules to 2/3 it would have passed. They wanted to add an imigration reform amendment to this one. Are you kidding me? This should be a clean bill. NO amendments. NO tricks. NO last minute changes of the rules because you are scarred for your political career.

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LOL at the article title...........

[xfirefighter484x 234]

LOL at the article title...........

:lol:

Never noticed that until you mentioned it. I had only watched the video, not looked at the article!!

LoHud Article Title

Weiner explodes on House floor over 9/11 responder bill — Watch speech

And, for those who haven't already heard this...

If a Pro- is the opposite of a Con-, then is Congress the opposite of Progress???

[INIT915 1,119]

The facts are that there is a majority party in charge. They did not need the opposition to pass this.

The facts are that at the last minute, they changed the votes needed to pass it (218) to (290). 2/3 instead of a simple majority. If they did not change the rules to 2/3 it would have passed. They wanted to add an imigration reform amendment to this one. Are you kidding me? This should be a clean bill. NO amendments. NO tricks. NO last minute changes of the rules because you are scarred for your political career.

Actually, if you read this, I think you have the issue completely wrong. The reason they asked for a 2/3 vote was to PREVENT the GOP from adding amendments, not to add them themselves, so your logic seems backwards:

Democratic leaders opted to consider it under a procedure that requires a two-thirds vote for approval rather than a simple majority. The move blocked potential GOP amendments to the measure.

King said Democrats were "petrified" about casting votes on amendments, possibly including one that would ban aid from going to illegal immigrants sickened by trade center dust. King said the bill was more important than "a campaign talking point."

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/video_weiner_blows_up_on_house_floor_LxaxZr2srZVP2zlK2cONmJ

If this article is wrong, can you provide us with a source that backs up your position?

[INIT915 1,119]

Ohbdow1, a couple more interesting quotes on the bill, (doesn't look like it the Democrats this time around):

Most Republicans refused to back the measure, calling it a "slush fund," and saying it was another example of Democratic overreach and an "insatiable" appetite for taxpayers' money.

"This legislation as written creates a huge $8.4 billion slush fund paid by taxpayers that is open to abuse, fraud and waste," said Rep. Lamar Smith (R-Texas), arguing that it would be raided by undeserving scammers with tenuous links to 9/11.

Rep. John Shimkus (R-Ill.) cast it as a money grab for New York because the bill would pay for care at higher rates than Medicare. "What this is is politics," Shimkus said. "What this is is enfranchising a bunch of New York City hospitals."

From the Congressman who "apologized" to BP recently:

Texas Republican Joe Barton, leading debate for his side, said the GOP would back a smaller program, such as the $150 million a year the White House would like to spend. But he said the rest of the country should not bear the brunt of helping New Yorkers cope with the aftermath of the terror attacks.

Democrats would have been able to pass the bill if they used the normal procedure, but they brought it up as a "suspension bill," which needs a two-thirds vote to pass because it can't be amended. Democrats feared the GOP would attach poison pills to the bill.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2010/07/29/2010-07-29_congress_rejects_zadroga_911_health_and_compensation_act_as_gop_members_balk_at_.html#ixzz0vDxbsLks

Edit: Adjusted links.

Edited July 31, 2010 by INIT915