White Plains Fires 7/7 w/FDNY Discussion

[efdny2003 16]

Listening to Scan60 right now as I'm at work at my day camp, heard something about FDNY coming mutual aid into Westchester, has anyone heard anything else about this or have further details? Unfortunately not being home I don't have my real scanner to listen and hear whats going on.

[E106MKFD 56]

Listening to Scan60 right now as I'm at work at my day camp, heard something about FDNY coming mutual aid into Westchester, has anyone heard anything else about this or have further details? Unfortunately not being home I don't have my real scanner to listen and hear whats going on.

The FDNY is sending two engines, a purple K unit, and possibly a battlion and division mutual aid to the working fire in White Plains. Unsure of Which FDNY units at this time.

[JAD622 40]

I believe FDNY units are going to a separate White Plains incident from the multiple alarm fire. County Car 2 requested them to New St. for a transformer fire. The multiple is on E. Post Rd. Lots of radio traffic, hard to hear it all so I may be wrong.

[Alpinerunner 61]

Is this a result of the layoffs?

[x129K 1,393]

Is this a result of the layoffs?

i'D BE WILLING TO BET IT IS A DIRECT RESULT OF............a fire.

[mfc2257 464]

Is this a result of the layoffs?

Doubt it... If it were from layoffs the m/a would be coming from within the county. I suspect if a Purple K unit from FDNY has been called it is for specific assistance with extinguishing a fire that only Purple K will work properly on. There is not to my knowledge a unit in Westchester that carries any mentionable amount of Purple K.

[JAD622 40]

Just heard 60 Control tell OEM 5 that there are 2 separate fires in White Plains.

[E106MKFD 56]

I know one is a Con Ed transformer fire which is probably where the Purple K is responding to. I just saw on the incident alert that the other was a taxpayer fire.

Edited July 7, 2010 by E106MKFD

[Alpinerunner 61]

i'D BE WILLING TO BET IT IS A DIRECT RESULT OF............a fire.

Sorry, apparently I wasn't clear enough.

My questin is, is this a common practice for FDNY to supply M/A to White Plains when things get busier than usual (like 2 fires at the same time)? Or is it possible that now that they have less manpower they are taking unprecedented steps, like calling FDNY, to cover the city? I don't live in White Plains, nor do I listen to WPFD scanners, so I'm not familiar with what goes in in WPFD.

However, mfc2257 inferred correctly what I was asking and his answer makes sense to me.

[E106MKFD 56]

Sorry, apparently I wasn't clear enough.

My questin is, is this a common practice for FDNY to supply M/A to White Plains when things get busier than usual (like 2 fires at the same time)? Or is it possible that now that they have less manpower they are taking unprecedented steps, like calling FDNY, to cover the city? I don't live in White Plains, nor do I listen to WPFD scanners, so I'm not familiar with what goes in in WPFD.

However, mfc2257 inferred correctly what I was asking and his answer makes sense to me.

It doesn't seem so. It looks like a special call since I don't thinks any Westchester deartments have a purple K Unit.

[NJMedic 96]

My guess.....High Heat + Transformer Fire = Purple K

[JBE 328]

As stated earlier, any M/A is done by other departments in the county. It was probably a specific request for Purple K. The closest ones would be 84 and 326. Permission has to be granted by the Chief of Department for mutual aid to be provided.

[WstPrideEng92 3]

just saw engine 59 a battalion chief and a support unit pulling off of the hutch onto mamaroneck ave in white plains. I had no idea of what was going on until i saw the header from 287. seems like a big fire.

[223Truck 0]

just saw engine 59 a battalion chief and a support unit pulling off of the hutch onto mamaroneck ave in white plains. I had no idea of what was going on until i saw the header from 287. seems like a big fire.

as per the911center AKA KED281.com FDNY Purple k unit responded to the electrical fire on New st. in white plains, ConED substation fire

[efdny2003 16]

There's two active fires in White Plains, one at the Con Ed substation where FDNY was called to and one I believe on E. Post Road in a row of stores with several affected. Several Westchester departments in the city at either scene or filling in for WPFD. Definitely a bad day for these fires.

[efdcapt115 1,511]

The brothers are taking a beating today, White Plains x2, Queens, FDNY mutual-aid into White Plains, and the heat up there from what I've read is pretty intense.

Keep hydrated, stay safe. God bless, and may He watch over them all.

[SRS131EMTFF 471]

Live video stream on lohud.com

Lohud also reporting 20+ FFs injured...

Edited July 7, 2010 by bvfdjc316

[knronald 2]

For those of us that are not fire fighters and up onto speed on all of nomenclature. What the hell is "Purple K"?

[20y2 43]

Isn't Engine 59 from Manhattan? NOW THAT'S MUUUUUUUUTUAL AID! LOL!

[x129K 1,393]

For those of us that are not fire fighters and up onto speed on all of nomenclature. What the hell is "Purple K"?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purple-K

[WHFD318 17]

Isn't Engine 59 from Manhattan? NOW THAT'S MUUUUUUUUTUAL AID! LOL!

133rd street if what i looked up is correct.

[TL2L31 8]

Second FDNY rig was E288 from Brooklyn.

[helicopper 1,050]

just saw engine 59 a battalion chief and a support unit pulling off of the hutch onto mamaroneck ave in white plains. I had no idea of what was going on until i saw the header from 287. seems like a big fire.

There was also the funeral for FDNY/Rye FF Scott Seaver who died over the weekend. That would explain the vans carrying FF and other FDNY personnel/vehicles along Mamaroneck Avenue.

Mutual aid from FDNY is not standard practice within Westchester, even in jurisdictions that border da Bronx. As others have already stated, it has nothing to do with the layoffs but rather the need for Purple-K and the lack of that resource within Westchester County. As was noted, it takes a great many approvals for resources to leave NYC.

As for the purple-K: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purple-K It allows you to fight the fire in energized electrical equipment.

[Bull McCaffrey 162]

Did Yonkers send any units to White Plains? Seems like their department would be the best suited if ANY in Westchester to respond to a mutual aid callout.

[SRS131EMTFF 471]

Didn't Yonkers have a fire at a ConED substation not more than a month ago? Why did they not call the FDNY then if large amounts of Purple K is not available in Westchester?

Edited July 8, 2010 by bvfdjc316

[Dusie 8]

I wonder if Con Ed can help expedite the approval process within the FDNY for resources as it was their assets?

[firedude 985]

As of 8pm, the fire was still out of control (reported by Lohud.com). White Plains Hospital is packed with FF and others who have been affected. How many Mutral Aid Departments are on scene? Also, Who takes the role of IC on such a big fire?

Lohud Article

Edited July 8, 2010 by firedude

[Bnechis 3,961]

Didn't Yonkers have a fire at a ConED substation not more than a month ago? Why did they not call the FDNY then if large amounts of Purple K is not available in Westchester?

Yonkers Fire was in an outside substation, where purple K is not effective. Purple K is generally only considerd in a sealled unit (usually below ground).

[99subi 121]

"The fire in downtown White Plains was declared under control at about 9 p.m., having destroyed half a city block." - Lohud

Edited July 8, 2010 by 99subi

[FD7807 59]

I was listening to WP fireground from when it first started. I give these guys all the credit in the world. Yes we all train for the big one and yes someone us get to fight it but few of us have to fight it under such extreme conditions. Big kudos to those guys and you make the whole brotherhood proud. Great job by WPFD and all of the other units on scene. Way to go !