FDNY New Tractor-Drawn Aerial

[rpbravest29fd 3]

I'm seeing rumors on other boards about a new FDNY Tractor-Drawn aerial that was ordered. Anybody have any info?

[ajsbear 11]

You mean a Tiller?

[rpbravest29fd 3]

I meant a tractor-drawn aerial. A tiller is just another name for it.

[JBE 328]

It's probably to replace 34 Truck. They have the oldest frontline tiller in service.(Either a 99 or 2000)

[CPAGE 2]

It's probably to replace 34 Truck. They have the oldest frontline tiller in service.(Either a 99 or 2000)

This would be Ladder 34 now.

[M' Ave 1,466]

So many more trucks should be tillers......it's amazing who doesn't have one and the streets they have to deal with.

[CPAGE 2]

So many more trucks should be tillers......it's amazing who doesn't have one and the streets they have to deal with.

I agree 100 % with you in the last 10 years they did away with 4 tillers. And many more just before that....What a shame

[rpbravest29fd 3]

Does anyone know if its coming from Seagrave?

[gpdexplorer 46]

A few questions, I'd appreciate some help. I'm looking for answers regarding the FDNY, put anyones input is appreciated.

Who is responsible for setting up the tiller once it arrives on scene? the operator of the tractor or the operator steering the trailer end, or both?

Once the stick is ready, does the operator of the trailer end go to work with the crew or stay at the truck and assist the other operator?

Edited April 26, 2010 by gpdexplorer

[rpbravest29fd 3]

In my vol. fire company, the driver of the tractor is responsible for aerial operations. The way that we normally work it is that the tillerman is responsible for assisting the operator put the aerial into operations (putting down the jacks, chocking the wheels, etc). Once the ladder is in operation, the tillerman is usually the first member up the aerial for roof operations, vent, etc. I'm not sure how FDNY operates but I am assuming its somewhat similar to us.

[M' Ave 1,466]

A few questions, I'd appreciate some help. I'm looking for answers regarding the FDNY, put anyones input is appreciated.

Who is responsible for setting up the tiller once it arrives on scene? the operator of the tractor or the operator steering the trailer end, or both?

Once the stick is ready, does the operator of the trailer end go to work with the crew or stay at the truck and assist the other operator?

Very little changes with a tiller vs. a rear mount. The tillerman is the O/V, so once on the scene of a job, he goes to work as the O/V would in any company. The chauffeur will set up the aerial the same way he would in a rear mount. There's really not much too it. Hit the parking break, put down both tormentors and raise the stick. I've only worked in a tiller a handful of times as a detail, but for operating purpose (other than driving) they act the same as a rearmount. Once the ladder is in position it's available for the roofman to take up, if he hasn't found an adjoining building that is. The chauffeur is also now free to assist with ground ladders in the front of the building, or assist the O/V if he's made it to the rear. The chauffeur becomes the utility man, just as he would in any other stick. Now, TL's are a whole different animal...

Edited April 26, 2010 by M' Ave

[gpdexplorer 46]

Very little changes with a tiller vs. a rear mount. The tillerman is the O/V, so once on the scene of a job, he goes to work as the O/V would in any company. The chauffeur will set up the aerial the same way he would in a rear mount. There's really not much too it. Hit the parking break, put down both tormentors and raise the stick. I've only worked in a tiller a handful of times as a detail, but for operating purpose (other than driving) they act the same as a rearmount. Once the ladder is in position it's available for the roofman to take up, if he hasn't found an adjoining building that is. The chauffeur is also now free to assist with ground ladders in the front of the building, or assist the O/V if he's made it to the rear. The chauffeur becomes the utility man, just as he would in any other stick. Now, TL's are a whole different animal...

That's kinda what I thought, I was just trying to see if maybe the money crunchers were trying to get rid of the tillers to save manpower or what have you, but I couldn't see the manpower being different on a tiller from that of a straight stick.