The Plattekill Engine 2, 47-20

[cman473 56]

Here are some pictures of the Plattekill Fire Districts New Pumper Tanker. It will serve us for at least 15 years and is a fine addition to our Apparatus Fleet. If you notice, we opted to not put on the Roto-Ray in order to keep all the Apparatus to appear the same. You will find some differences in the appearance such as the Battalion 3 and Engine 2 Labeling on the Doors, windows and Front Bumper. All of our larger apparatus have "Plattekill" written across the front, the Roto-Ray would not allow us to have this on this piece.

Over All length is 33' 11"

GVW is 81,000 Lbs

Height is 110"

Dump time is 54 Seconds if Using the 10" newton Dump on the rear and 71 Seconds if using one of the 8" Chute Side Dumps, We have not done a combined time yet.

Fill Time all depends on where you are filling it from and who or what is filling you.

Engine 2 is set up as a Class A Pumper with a wide variety of equipment, See Partial Inventory Below; The Color Code for this unit is blue.

Ulster County Call Sign; 47-20

Private Channel Call Sign; Engine 2

2009 HME Ahrens Fox 1871 Pumper Tanker

5 Man Cab

3000 Gallon Tank

2000 GPM Pump

1500' 5" Angus Hi-Vol Hose

700' 1 3/4" Neidner XL-800 Hose

700' 2 1/2" Neidner XL-800 Hose

45' Kochek Hard Suction

3000 Gallon Fol-Da-Tank

Zico Electric Folding Tank Lift

24' Ladder

14' Ladder

10' Attic Ladder

2 - 6' Steel Hooks

2 - 8' Fiberglass Pikes

2 - 4' Pikes

2 - 4' Sheet Rock Hooks

2 - 3' Sheet Rock Hooks

2 - 3' D Dandle Pikes

1 - 4' Push Broom

1 - 3' Square point Shovel

2 - 30" Pro Bars

2 - Flat Head Axes

2 - Pick Head Axes

4 - Scott 4.5 SCBA w/ Mask and Voice Amps

6 - Spare 4.5 Cylinders

ISG Thermal Imaging Camera

Honeywell Impact Pro 4 Gas Monitor

Dual Head, Dual Frequencies Kenwood Mobile Radios, Low band and UHF

6 - ICOM Portable UHF Radios

250' 12-3 Electric Cord Reel w/ Electric Rewind and Akron Junction Box

16" Supervac Vent Saw

20" Supervac Electric Fan

16" Supervac Electric Fan

2 - 14' x 18' Salvage Covers, Nylon

1 - 9' x 9' Salvage Cover, Cloth

Turbo Flare LZ Kit

24 EFlare Traffic lights

Akron Salvage Kit

2 - Low Level Siphon Jet Strainers

1 - 6" Barrel Strainer

Assortment of Adapters and Valves

Hydrant Kit Bag

Power Call Siren

Q2B Siren

4 Stutter Air horns (Has Separate Activator and Air Valve w/ tanks)

6 Train Horns (Has Separate Activator and Air Valve w/ tanks)

Garmin Nuvi 885T GPS

AM/FM/CD/5 Channel Weather Band Sirius Civil Defense Radio

Led interior Whelen Lighting

All Whelen LED Lighting

Dual Led Rear facing Arrow Sticks

Reflective Chevron

3 Video Camera System, 1 Rear and 2 Side allowing for 360 Degree Vision

Akron Nozzles

Akron Appolo Deck Gun

MIV Hidden Valves

Electric Valve Operators

Akron Command Center

Much more to list

[x635 4,066]

VERY NICE! Looks very well thought out! Thanks for sharing the specs and detail shots!

[cman473 56]

VERY NICE! Looks very well thought out! Thanks for sharing the specs and detail shots!

Thank you!!!

[Patch6713 18]

Nice looking truck. Good luck with it.

[antiquefirelt 994]

Good luck with the new truck! Not to sound like a jerk, but could they get anymore stuff to obstruct the driver's vision? Other than that it looks very well thought out.

[cman473 56]

Good luck with the new truck! Not to sound like a jerk, but could they get anymore stuff to obstruct the driver's vision? Other than that it looks very well thought out.

When the Driver sits in his seat, the radio cluster is further back than it looks allowing for a clear view.

[MESS11FOREVER 246]

2010 wetdown ?

[Jack P 2]

Hello Chief,

Congrats on your new apparatus. Looks like your committee put a lot of time in

planning and construction. The equipment is well placed in the compartments.

Good luck and be safe, Jack P

[cman473 56]

2010 wetdown ?

Yes, there will be a 2010 wet down. We don't have any details yet but as they come available I will post. Due to term limits i will not be chief in 2010 although I will be a big part in the new line officer slate and already have been asked to be part of their planning.

[cman473 56]

Hello Chief,

Congrats on your new apparatus. Looks like your committee put a lot of time in

planning and construction. The equipment is well placed in the compartments.

Good luck and be safe, Jack P

Thank You. The committee did put in a lot of time. From our first meeting to date of delivery, the committee worked very hard in making it very successful. Over all time frame from the 1st meeting to the Inspection trip was only 17 months. We went in knowing what we wanted and after looking at some different ideas, we were able to quickly put together this specification. A big effort was put in also by Jim Terry and Exceptional Emergency Vehicles.

We had a length requirement as well as a height requirement. This did limit us to the size motor we could have used. About 2 months after signing contracts the company added 4' to the length of station 1 and 11" of height. Unfortunately it was too late to change the cab and chassis design for the larger motor.

[Bnechis 3,961]

but could they get anymore stuff to obstruct the driver's vision?

While the chief, points out that it does not obstruct, this is a design issue with most of the manufacturers. Few dash board designs can accomedate the electronics now in use. I have seen where all of these items do not obstruct the view until the officer has his arm up to control the radio or siren (particularly looking at the mirror).

Additional concern with the hanging radio's & siren's. are the brackets strong enough to hold the G forces in a crash?

We need to think about the potential for a crash and what will happen with all the equipment. I do not like the idea of tools in the cab, since your primary tools are in a compartment (Irons) having secndary tools in the cab are unnessisary potential missels.

Finally, does the dept (or others) actually use the front intake? My experience is they are either not or rarely used, very expensive, prone to failure and very poor for water flow (most loss 40-60% in FL).

Sorry to be down, but these are issues I see over and over again.

Good luck with the new truck.

[DOC22 1]

Very nice and well planned vehicle! Good luck with it. Stay safe!

[lad45der 78]

Very nice and well planned vehicle! Good luck with it. Stay safe!

81,000 Lbs is that correct?? This Engine/Tanker is really that heavy going down the road???.

My city has a entire fleet of HME apparatus .... Good luck with the rig.

[knet22553 8]

roto ray would have been a very nice addition

[cman473 56]

While the chief, points out that it does not obstruct, this is a design issue with most of the manufacturers. Few dash board designs can accomedate the electronics now in use. I have seen where all of these items do not obstruct the view until the officer has his arm up to control the radio or siren (particularly looking at the mirror).

Additional concern with the hanging radio's & siren's. are the brackets strong enough to hold the G forces in a crash?

We need to think about the potential for a crash and what will happen with all the equipment. I do not like the idea of tools in the cab, since your primary tools are in a compartment (Irons) having secndary tools in the cab are unnessisary potential missels.

Finally, does the dept (or others) actually use the front intake? My experience is they are either not or rarely used, very expensive, prone to failure and very poor for water flow (most loss 40-60% in FL).

Sorry to be down, but these are issues I see over and over again.

Good luck with the new truck.

Very Good Points. As we began to talk about when and where to mount equipment, we also began to look for mount brackets that have been approved by NFPA for Crash Test and Weight loads. The brackets used in the cab are of such qualifications by Performance Advantage Company. Matter of Fact all Brackets used in this apparatus are from PAC. We find their quality to be high and safe at the same time. We even put helmet mounts and SCBA mounts in the cab to ensure safety.

As for the front intake, we use it 50% of the time. There are times that space, weather conditions and apparatus placement does not allow us to use the side intakes. The ONLY problem we have in the last 10 years with the front intakes is when a Neighboring fire department accidentally backed into the intake shifting the piping and the pump. A very large insurance claim. It makes everything that much easier when you have to "nose" into those tighter water sources.

And as for the radios, I cant give you answer on that question. I am sure any impact will pose a threat to the occupants and the equipment mounted, considering we have scene Tractor Trailers MVA's where their Motors and Transmissions were ripped out and flung 200' from where the remainder of the truck landed. Nothing technically is mounted then. In this Link, you can see the secured Seat in the apparatus became a missile and went through the wind shield. http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/fire/images/200717P1.jpg

[cman473 56]

roto ray would have been a very nice addition

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