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Thanks for sharing hope they have good luck with them

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Great looking rigs.....really unique looking. I almost did not think they were KMEs for a second.

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Great looking rigs.....really unique looking. I almost did not think they were KMEs for a second.

Same here, I though that also after they continued to have problems with the tower ladder they got from KME.

Hope they have good luck with the new rigs.

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They look awesome....sure will see some heavy duty use. The body doesn't seem too much different then their previous KME engines.

I also like how they're nice and compact.

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Great looking rigs.....really unique looking. I almost did not think they were KMEs for a second.

Neither did I, I thought they were seagraves at first, Nice rigs!

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From what I understand the bean counters have won out. I think the rank and file would prefer Seagrave but the folks with the money have spoken. The TL I do belive had every problem reported on a daily basis and the companies that had those units were used to a Tiller and wanted the tillers back. I am also sure KME has been cutting bids locally and STEALING bids away from the manufacturers who have worked the bids in the first place.

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Nice rigs, interesting place for a booster reel, do previous rigs have this or is it a new idea?

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Nice rigs, interesting place for a booster reel, do previous rigs have this or is it a new idea?

Not sure about Philadelphia, but booster reels on the backstep were standard on FDNY Engines up until the late 1980's.

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I had noticed that before JBE, any reason why FDNY stopped useing them? They are a good idea especially for small trash fires and vehicle fires etc. We have them on all our rigs but above the pump panel.

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Rogue Rescue:

A red snake for a vehicle fire? Not any more with the plastics and the cylinders and loaded bumpers no no no.

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I was more meaning an under bonnet fire etc, was just trying to think of examples of things we use ours for + we have true 1inch reels, i know alot of people only use 3/4 inch. We deploy the reel at most fires to get water on the fire from a distance until people don thier masks and get out the 1 3/4 or 2 1/2 inch hoses...

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loaded bumpers are not very common these days.

There are still millions out there, just not on new vehicles. The olderones are more likely to be burning than a new car anyway.

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