What are the "County Cars" in Dutchess?

[TAPSJ 30]

At LaGrange's Fire and heard at a couple that County Car something is on the scene.

Now are they paid???

How many are there???

How do they get their position???

What do they do???

Thanks in advance.

Thomas

[markmets415 524]

At LaGrange's Fire and heard at a couple that County Car something is on the scene.

Now are they paid???

How many are thier???

How do they get thier postion???

What do they do???

Thanks in advance.

Thomas

Not paid, mileage only

Several, you have one for each battalion, some for the investigation division, hazmat division

Experience, past Chiefs mostly

Assist with the IC, training needs, inventory of depts and on and on.

Please chime in I am sure I missed several things.

[Pagers 197]

In the Town of Colonie we have multiple "Operation's Cars." they are elected to their postions by the chiefs of the 12 departments in the town. They handle all the ICS positions, i.e. safety, logistics, communications, accountability, and so on. They are not paid but do run red lights and siren and Car 1 has an official marked car.

[xfirefighter484x 234]

One of the main responsibilities of County Cars at any major incident is supposed to be a liaison to DC911, and any other agencies. If the IC needs, lets say DOT for sand for a large spill, or the DC Command Vehicle, they can ask the CC, and the CC can use their resources to make the arrangements. Also if refreshments are needed at long duration events.

This is meant to take a large burden off of the IC, and they can focus on the main incident.

Many misconceptions are that the County Cars come to take command and manage the incidents, which is false. County Cars are nothing more (no offense meant) than another resource. If you needed 2 TLs for a major fire, they can make the call, to decide which ones to request, so as to not strip immediate surrounding ones, or, they can just request them from DC911, and the County can dispatch the best ones suited.

[COMMANDCHIEF 4]

Or you can be big in politics. Then you can have someone call from County government and totally disregard the selection comittees choice, and put in the person THEY want. Enough said

[JetPhoto 626]

County cars can also assist you if need as a water officer too

[moggie6 54]

County Cars often have the ability to push their own fire dept to go to scenes of major incidents.

[stephen morea 1]

why is that moggie6? Like, how can they justify that?

[richg67 0]

Being one of those "County Cars" from Dutchess, xfirefighter484x got it right......we are there to help, as another resource. I ahve never seen a FD "pushed" in Dutchess.....or someone selected becasue of politics. All of us are X- chiefs, and are still active in the fire service and oly want the best for the FDs, and that incident that may be happening.

As County Car 9, I am there to be Deputy coordinator for training....to assist the departments in their training needs. Markmets415 was close, we get a very small "stipend" each year, plus mileage. We can be an extra set of eyes and ears, experienced past chiefs that can assist an any way the IC deems necessarry.

I cannot comment on other counties, but that is how it is done in Dutchess.........

[xchief2x 79]

I believe every county has deputy coordinators. In Westchester there are 11 of us on the fire side and 3 on the EMS side.

9 of us are actually titled Mutual Aid Coordinators, 2 are assigned for fire investigation to oversee the 5 C&O teams throughout the county. We must apply for the position and go through an interview by officals from DES and the fire advisory board. We receive a stipend as well as mileage. Our main focus is to respond within our respective battalion to any mutual aid fire. We are also required to conduct an annual Battalion wide drill which we may conduct jointy with another adjoining battalion. We also have to hold meetings. We are to realy information from DES to our departments and bring back any concerns from our departments back to the Deputy Commisioner. We also assist our respective departments with other matters that may arise. We are designated on the radio as Battalion 10 through 18, cars 24 & 25 are the C&O deputies and EMS car 10, 11 & 12. Some of us are former Chiefs. The 2 C&O guys have law enforcement and fire service backgrounds.

[x129K 1,393]

As County Car 9

[rvwscan 20]

Anyone have a list of what CCs are what in Dutchess. I know some:

CC1 - Emergency Coordinator

CC3 - ?? Haz-Mat/LEPC??

CC4 - Used to be EMS

CC5 - EMS

CC9 - Training

CC11 - Battalion 1

CC12 - Battalion 2

CC13 - Battalion 3

CC14 - Battalion 4

CC15 - Battalion 5

CC16 - Battalion 6

CC17 - Battalion 7

CC51 - FID

CC61 - Haz-Mat

CC72 - EMS??

CC73 - EMS??

Anyone have a good list of which FD's are in which Battalions?? Also are the 14-xx numbers still used for some coordinators, ie 14-79 - CIRT, 14-67 - Haz-Mat. I know that 14-59 is now FID1 and 14-69 is now Haz-Mat 1 and Field Comm 1 which I believe was 14-29 waaay back when befor they needed more dispatcher numbers. Also 14-48 and 14-49 used to be facilities maintenance if I remember right???

[Guest]

Being one of those "County Cars" from Dutchess, xfirefighter484x got it right......we are there to help, as another resource. I ahve never seen a FD "pushed" in Dutchess.....or someone selected becasue of politics. All of us are X- chiefs, and are still active in the fire service and oly want the best for the FDs, and that incident that may be happening.

As County Car 9, I am there to be Deputy coordinator for training....to assist the departments in their training needs. Markmets415 was close, we get a very small "stipend" each year, plus mileage. We can be an extra set of eyes and ears, experienced past chiefs that can assist an any way the IC deems necessarry.

I cannot comment on other counties, but that is how it is done in Dutchess.........

Well put Rich with the exception of all are x chiefs CC73 - x rescue squad captain ( a lot of knowledge) and CC79 Cirt Team person are a couple of examples ----Battalion County Cars are X- chiefs I agree

Edited December 5, 2008 by JHK3605

[jfmuller 23]

Anyone have a list of what CCs are what in Dutchess. I know some:

CC1 - Emergency Coordinator

CC3 - ?? Haz-Mat/LEPC??

CC4 - Used to be EMS

CC5 - EMS

CC9 - Training

CC11 - Battalion 1

CC12 - Battalion 2

CC13 - Battalion 3

CC14 - Battalion 4

CC15 - Battalion 5

CC16 - Battalion 6

CC17 - Battalion 7

CC51 - FID

CC61 - Haz-Mat

CC72 - EMS??

CC73 - EMS??

Anyone have a good list of which FD's are in which Battalions?? Also are the 14-xx numbers still used for some coordinators, ie 14-79 - CIRT, 14-67 - Haz-Mat. I know that 14-59 is now FID1 and 14-69 is now Haz-Mat 1 and Field Comm 1 which I believe was 14-29 waaay back when befor they needed more dispatcher numbers. Also 14-48 and 14-49 used to be facilities maintenance if I remember right???

Battalion Map

Battalion Coordinators

From Dutchess County 911 site

[PVFD233 68]

Battalion Map

Battalion Coordinators

From Dutchess County 911 site

I believe county car 7 is EMS CC. Still Howard Adams?

[x129K 1,393]

Stevie Tuttle IS a Past Chief...

[Guest]

Stevie Tuttle IS a Past Chief...

sorry Dan my mistake did not know that thanks for correcting me

Edited December 5, 2008 by JHK3605

[TAPSJ 30]

Thanks all. Now are they considered a Chief??? Like Battlion or Deputy???

Thomas

[markmets415 524]

Being one of those "County Cars" from Dutchess, xfirefighter484x got it right......we are there to help, as another resource. I ahve never seen a FD "pushed" in Dutchess.....or someone selected becasue of politics. All of us are X- chiefs, and are still active in the fire service and oly want the best for the FDs, and that incident that may be happening.

As County Car 9, I am there to be Deputy coordinator for training....to assist the departments in their training needs. Markmets415 was close, we get a very small "stipend" each year, plus mileage. We can be an extra set of eyes and ears, experienced past chiefs that can assist an any way the IC deems necessarry.

I cannot comment on other counties, but that is how it is done in Dutchess.........

Thanks Rich, we in Dutchess are extremely lucky to have such an excellent group off County Cars, it is surely nice to know that they are there to assist and to be able to tap into their vast knowledge and also knowing they ALL have been there is a great resource.

[Beekman 5]

Dana Smith is the EMS Coordinator for Dutchess. Poor guy!!!!

[Guest]

CC-1 = John Murphy, County Emergency Response Coordinator

CC-2 = Currently Vacant

CC-3 = Ken Davidson, County Emergency Manager

CC-5 = Russ Whittaker, Communications Specialist

CC-7 = Dana Smith, EMS Coordinator

CC-9 = Rich Guiliani, Training Program Administrator

CC-11 = Sandy Williams, Battalion 1 Deputy Coordinator

CC-12 = Keith Davidson, Battalion 2 Deputy Coordinator

CC-13 = Kyle Pottenburgh, Battalion 3 Deputy Coordinator

CC-14 = Lennie Morrison, Battalion 4 Deputy Coordinator

CC-15 = Ray Nichols, Battalion 5 Deputy Coordinator

CC-16 = Bob Sartori, Battalion 6 Deputy Coordinator

CC-17 = Steve Vanburen, Battalion 7 Deputy Coordinator

CC-51 = Dave Shultz, Fire Investigation Team Leader

CC-52 = Victor Zamaloff, Juvinille Firesetters Group Leader

CC-53 = Gary Beaumont, Asst. Fire Investigation Team Leader

CC-61 = Steve Vanburen, Haz-Mat Team Chief

CC-62 = Mike Wetzel, Haz-Mat Team Asst. Chief

CC-71 = Dale Plumer, Deputy EMS Coordinator

CC-72 = Currently Vacant

CC-73 = Dick Spencer, Deputy EMS Coordinator

CC-79 = Steve Tuttle, Critical Incident Response Team Leader

CC-95 = Tom Murphy, Fire Prevention Program Administrator

14-1 = Pat Calamari, Dutchess 9-1-1 Operations Director

FieldCom-1 = County Command Field Communications Vehicle

FID-1 = Fire Investigation Vehicle (formerly 1459)

HazMat-1 = Hazardous Materials Team Vehicle (formerly 1469)

CIRT-1 = Critical Incident Response Team Field Command Trailer (formerly 1479)

If a "CC" number is not listed above, it doesn't exist.

Hope this clarifies it up.

[WAS967 97]

Just took a look at the Battalion map and had a quick question. What are the two areas at the top of the map above Pine Plains and Milan that are actually on Columbia? Do Milan and Pine Plains cover a part of Columbia County or is that only if the neighboring departments up there require M/A from Dutchess, the CCs go up there to assist?

[Guest]

Just took a look at the Battalion map and had a quick question. What are the two areas at the top of the map above Pine Plains and Milan that are actually on Columbia? Do Milan and Pine Plains cover a part of Columbia County or is that only if the neighboring departments up there require M/A from Dutchess, the CCs go up there to assist?

Yes, there are areas in Columbia County (Town of Gallatin for example) in the Jackson Corners area, where Dutchess Departments cover the area.

[richg67 0]

Thanks guys........We are here to help.......no politics, no BS.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

[x129K 1,393]

Thanks guys........We are here to help.......no politics, no BS.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

Merry Christmas to you as well Chief!