Suffern and Deportation Powers

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SUFFERN - A neighboring police chief and a local hospital official have added their voices to an outcry over plans to have village police take on deportation duties.At a recent forum, speakers continued to raise concerns that Mayor John Keegan's proposal would destroy the trust between police and immigrants and inevitably lead to racial profiling.

Ramapo Police Chief Peter Brower made clear that his town - Suffern is a village within Ramapo - would not pursue the same strategy. The chief said he was there to represent Ramapo Supervisor Christopher St. Lawrence.

"We're local police. We have local problems. We'll deal with the local problems," Brower told a group of 200 people at the Tagaste Monastery on Wednesday night.

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this sounds like a disaster waiting to happen. i understand they say that 'have problems,' but a relationship with PD and the public is crucial. leave the deports up to the feds.

Edited May 9, 2008 by vacguy

[helicopper 1,050]

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this sounds like a disaster waiting to happen. i understand they say that 'have problems,' but a relationship with PD and the public is crucial. leave the deports up to the feds.

Why? If you encounter a deportable subject in the course of your work why shouldn't you be able to detain him and initiate the deportation proceedings since the feds almost never will!

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Why? If you encounter a deportable subject in the course of your work why shouldn't you be able to detain him and initiate the deportation proceedings since the feds almost never will!

sure, they're breaking the law...they're illegally here. detain them, but hand them over to the feds. breaking a relationship (if they even have a good one) with your public over this might not be such a great idea.

maybe have the cops tip off the feds as to where they are, not for them to get them themselves

illegal people might flee ramapo and go somewhere else where local PD does not bother them. if that happens other municipalities might not be too happy with ramapo.

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The feds are leaving us high and dry. The state and local Gov's need to step up and take over and do something. If none of the politians want to step up than its up to the people to do it.

[Guest]

The feds are leaving us high and dry. The state and local Gov's need to step up and take over and do something. If none of the politians want to step up than its up to the people to do it.

tax money already goes to the feds for this work. do local PD's have it in their budgets to do this job or will they ask their taxpayers for more $$?

anyone know they they want to be the agency to actually send off the illegals back to their home country?

i find this branching out to be pioneer in our area, so don't think i'm attacking them. i know ramapo is very diverse, so i hope this is well thought out.

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sure, they're breaking the law...they're illegally here. detain them, but hand them over to the feds. breaking a relationship (if they even have a good one) with your public over this might not be such a great idea.

maybe have the cops tip off the feds as to where they are, not for them to get them themselves

illegal people might flee ramapo and go somewhere else where local PD does not bother them. if that happens other municipalities might not be too happy with ramapo.

You mean Suffern. Ramapo is the town that is NOT supporting the plan.

[Oswegowind 17]

I thinks it is absolutely crazy how hard it is to actually deport someone that doesn't belong here. All this talk and absolutely no action on a daily basis. But look at what happened in Mamaroneck...better be careful!

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I thinks it is absolutely crazy how hard it is to actually deport someone that doesn't belong here. All this talk and absolutely no action on a daily basis. But look at what happened in Mamaroneck...better be careful!

makes you think that the plan "client #9" had: to give them drivers' licences to keep track of them would have been a good idea. keep track of them, and one by one deport them.

...and then, see how mad people get when the price of their McDonald's hamburger goes up! lol

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You mean Suffern. Ramapo is the town that is NOT supporting the plan.

opps!

[Guest alsfirefighter]

I have a little more simple outlook on all of this. If you are arrested for breaking the law...misdemeanor or felony and you are not here legally, you get convicted and turned over to ICE. The federal government should require states to all have equal drivers license and vehicle registration requirements much like NY's and I'm sure there are states with higher standards. Unlike the common CT, NC and PA plates we see everyday.

Deportation one by one and for that matter any "mass" deportation will not work because there is an estimated 6 to 9 million illegals in our country. How do you deport a mother and/or father who have children here who are citizens? Not to mention its a drop in the bucket. Stem the flow...but lets not forget one other thing...we are America...the fact that so many want to come here is a compliment to the democracy we all live in and at one time all of our ancestors were probably not treated the best because they were Irish, Italian, Scottich, Jewish, etc. Not every hispanic person is here illegally but I love to see how most yell that at them at certain times, when part of the 6 to 9 million are from Russia, I know of illegal irishmen, etc.

Prices of hamburgers will go up? How much do you think many of the American grown veggies you buy everyday will cost if you go that route? Who do you think often picks the lettuce, cabbage, grapes, etc we eat? Who will replace many of the jobs that the majority of illegals who are hard worknig, law abiding persons who under our own law still have civil rights do? The next generation coming out of high school now? How many of you know that many of them do actually pay taxes? Might not be under a legal social security card, but a high percentage of them do.

How many of your agencies or municipalities have reached out to community leaders to gain better communication with target groups and provide educational services so they better understand our system and why it is the way it is?

[Oswegowind 17]

Quick note about other state DMV's

North Carolina is a private franchise...yes, just like McDonald's. You too can own your own branch of the DMV.

Pennsylvania, someone told me AAA runs the DMV out there and you must join to get plates there...then just cancel your membership and waalaa...you can still drive around and hope the police don't stop you.

[DaRock98 76]

Pennsylvania, someone told me AAA runs the DMV out there and you must join to get plates there...then just cancel your membership and waalaa...you can still drive around and hope the police don't stop you.

Is it illegal to not be a part of AAA in Pennsylvania?

Back to the topic at hand I think no matter how many people you deport they are just going to keep on coming into the U.S. illegally, I'm not saying just to leave them alone but the is no way to get them all deported.

[FirNaTine 370]

Please let's stop feeling sorry for the poor illegals, especially when 60% of the Federal Prison Population is made up of them. We already have enough degenerates who are legal citizens commiting crimes, we don't need these lawbreakers adding to the stats.. Isn't anyone just a little pissed off they have more rights then you and get free health care? I don't care what Nationality they are, they break the law deport their a**. You want to come to this Country and live the American Dream, then do it thru the proper channels like my Grandparents did. As far as paying hire prices for veggies and burgers, I could care less so long as our National Security isn't being compromised. Let's get our priorities straight folks.

[Guest MVFD334]

If your gonna start the deportation process wether it be on the county, state or federal, shouldnt there be a plan in place to keep them out once there booted? I cant count the number of times where illegal workers that I have known have left the county to go home for a funeral or such and then return. The feds need to quit the crap and start enforcing border control, and once they have a system that keeps the unwanted out we can then start worrying about deporting.

And why the hell are we housing this 60% of the prison population? Why not just send them back to where they came from and have them rot in foreign prisons that are much harsher than our own. No this country would rather educate them, give them tv's in their cells and let them hang out in the yard dressed in baggy prison clothes wearing sunglasses and mingle with the same gang members on "their" part of the yard.

[Guest alsfirefighter]

Please let's stop feeling sorry for the poor illegals, especially when 60% of the Federal Prison Population is made up of them. We already have enough degenerates who are legal citizens commiting crimes, we don't need these lawbreakers adding to the stats.. Isn't anyone just a little pissed off they have more rights then you and get free health care? I don't care what Nationality they are, they break the law deport their a**. You want to come to this Country and live the American Dream, then do it thru the proper channels like my Grandparents did. As far as paying hire prices for veggies and burgers, I could care less so long as our National Security isn't being compromised. Let's get our priorities straight folks.

While I can't totally disagree with your sentiments brother...statistically they commit no higher percentage of crime then the rest of the population. Believe me when I say that I am pretty as conservative as they come, however I have looked deeper into the issue by reading books about it and the media loves to sensationalize any crime if a potential or confirmed illegal was involved.

Also, how many illegals are a national threat per say? That's another hot topic statement thrown around and let's not forget those responsible for carrying out the attacks on 9/11 entered the U.S. legally.

My priorities are pretty much straight. There is no way to deport 6 million people. They are here and I have to do my best to still support them regardless of what their status is, I can either keep beating on the deport deport deport drum that I was once pounding on, or I can look much deeper into the issue to realize that there is no simple answer no matter what news media angle, commentator or anyone else wants to keep throwing out there.

[MoFire390 118]

I was like you at one point ALS could not stand the "illegal's" but the more i think about it the more it makes sense. they are working the jobs that we don't want. like the fast food joints. I mean they usually get my order wrong, but who cares about that allergic reaction to mustard everyone once in a while?

I mean I can see if one has a criminal record from their home country, and has commited crimes here and is found guilty.