FDNY EMS REP's?

[Guest fdnyladder10]

is true there are ems units who patrol in rep's in NY, i think, if they do that its the special operations unit of ems

jarrod

[NJMedic 96]

Is it true?

Maybe ESU "looking" vehicles but shortly after NYC EMS merged into FDNY EMS they operated an old REP for EMS' special operations division. This was a carry over from NYC EMS' SOD

The contracted paramedics at JFK airport used to (still do) operate a utility style truck.

In NJ they are a dime a dozen. About 60% of the medic units in NJ doe not transport and respond in SUVs and utulity style trucks.

Some of the NYPD REPs have stars of life in them, maybe to identify the compartment were the medical gear is or just because all ESU members are EMTs.

ESU apparentlly has a Ford Explorer with a star of life on it. These are the ESU paramedics assigned a tactical medics.

[SageVigiles 1,194]

There IS a special operations unit of FDNY*EMS, they have the Haz-Tac ambulances (HAZMAT Techs) and Rescue ambulances (or Crush Medics, as they are sometimes referred to) who are specially trained ALS units, I believe they are supposed ride in ambulances that are slightly bigger than the normal buses to accommidate the additional equipment (air packs, etc,) though that may not be the case YET.

[Guest]

FDNY EMS is not using REP (whatever that is). They are becoming more specialized and have a Special Operations Command. They have Haz Tach Ambulances and Rescue Ambulance. As of now, these units still use the old style bus and new ones are on order. From what I hear some have been delivered but went back to Ford for repairs.

The members of these Special Units are being trained to higher levels by the FDNY and FDNY EMS training school.

[10-Buff-4 0]

I wonder if the bottom rig here isn't perhaps what was alluded to in this thread:

http://fdnytrucks.com/files/html/specialunits/ems.htm

No clue as to its function.

-Joe DA BUFF

[Oswegowind 17]

It looks like it is "Emergency Response Squad 1" assigned to EMS and responds to HazMat scenes. By the looks of it, I hardly think it is still being used!

[JBJ1202 27]

We run a BLS Haz-Tac bus out of my station (27Henry). I have seen pictures of the new buses that will be assigned to haz-tac and rescue, they are on the new ford chassis.. F-450 maybe. The only major difference from the outside was a 2-3 foot roll up compartment next to the passenger doors. I assume that is where the extra length of the vehicle comes in. ill pass along any more info that comes my way.

JBJ

19Boy1

[tbendick 27]

EMS ran a SOD Division prior to the Merger. After the Merger it changed to ERS and ran as one boss and one EMT. Most of the speical stuff SOD had went away with the merger and was left with ERS, MERV's and LSU's.

ERS then was disbaned and when it came back it was done has Haztac Battalion. There are two haztac lt's on duty covering the city, however they no longer run with an EMT.

Also now have more MERV's, and the new MRTU.

So EMS's special stuff is making somewhat of a come back.

[biglew 3]

So who mans ( medics?) the HAZTAC units? How many citywide on duty at any one time? What is the criteria for their response?

[Guest]

is true there are ems units who patrol in rep's in NY, i think, if they do that its the special operations unit of ems

jarrod

Perhaps what you saw was an LSU (Logistics Support Unit) vehicle? They are utility bodies used to transport equipment (AKA Backboard Patrol).

[ny10570 745]

So who mans ( medics?) the HAZTAC units? How many citywide on duty at any one time? What is the criteria for their response?

HazTac are BLS with a Henry designation (18H) or ALS with a Zebra designation (14Z). Rescue/Crush units are ALS with a Retard I mean Rescue designation (03R). I have no idea how many HazTac units there are, but there are 5 Rescue medic units (1 for each borough). The Rescue and HazTac all run 3 tours and operate as any other line unit until there is an incident requiring their response. They can be special called to any incident and are suppose to all ways be assigned on certain calls. I don't know the specific assignments that are assigned to HazTac, but I do know inhalation or suspected HazMat spill are suppose to have a HazTac and the the closest appropriate unit. Building collapse and entrapped firefighter automatically get a Rescue medic. Maybe a dispatcher or buff can help more here.

The HazTac are designed to be able to bring patient care into the hot zone of a hazardous environment and through decontamination. The Rescue units are there to bring patient care to an entrapped patient in a variety of dangerous environments. They are able to operate along side fire's rescue units just about anywhere they are able to. They are also trained in crush medicine and I believe have a set of protocols specific to their training coming out soon. Both the HazTac and Rescue units are there to bring treatment to the patients instead of waiting for the patients to come to us.

Edited March 6, 2008 by ny10570

[20y2 43]

BLS HazTac Units: Manhattan (2H, 4H, 10H), Bronx (17H, 18H, 27H), Brooklyn (31H, 38H, 43H), Queens (45H,49H,52H), SI (22H. 23H)

ALS HazTac Units: Manhattan (8Z, 12Z, 16Z), Bronx (14Z,15Z,17Z, 18Z), Brooklyn (33Z,39Z,48Z,58Z), Queens (46Z,47Z,54Z), SI (22Z)

ALS Rescue Units: Manhattan (7R), Bronx (3R), Brooklyn (35R), Queens (45R), SI (23R)

[Guest fdnyladder10]

BLS HazTac Units: Manhattan (2H, 4H, 10H), Bronx (17H, 18H, 27H), Brooklyn (31H, 38H, 43H), Queens (45H,49H,52H), SI (22H. 23H)

ALS HazTac Units: Manhattan (8Z, 12Z, 16Z), Bronx (14Z,15Z,17Z, 18Z), Brooklyn (33Z,39Z,48Z,58Z), Queens (46Z,47Z,54Z), SI (22Z)

ALS Rescue Units: Manhattan (7R), Bronx (3R), Brooklyn (35R), Queens (45R), SI (23R)

It seems that the EMS in NYC is making good progress in specialist operations.

It sems that as opposed to having a dedicated unit, that exists purely to respond to, and train for specialist and technical rescues and Hazmats, they are burdoning this role on already overworked ALS and BLS units on the road, so if an incident should occur that requires the attendance of a specially trained EMS team, that team may be dealing with a patient in the back of the bus and have to deal with and unload that patient before responding. Also these dedicated people miss out on the time to do training specific to their role, as they still have to operate as a normal EMS unit.

Maybe in time this will evolve into a dedicated team, who knows??

Jarrod

[JBJ1202 27]

It seems that the EMS in NYC is making good progress in specialist operations.

It sems that as opposed to having a dedicated unit, that exists purely to respond to, and train for specialist and technical rescues and Hazmats, they are burdoning this role on already overworked ALS and BLS units on the road, so if an incident should occur that requires the attendance of a specially trained EMS team, that team may be dealing with a patient in the back of the bus and have to deal with and unload that patient before responding. Also these dedicated people miss out on the time to do training specific to their role, as they still have to operate as a normal EMS unit.

Maybe in time this will evolve into a dedicated team, who knows??

Jarrod

I have to agree with you... But I do not think the call volume would justify a dedicated unit. The way EMS is right now, i dont think we could afford to lose any more buses. In time hopefully this would not be the case. With having dedicated units to the SOC, i wonder if FDNY EMS will ever go to station based ambulances... as opposed to CSL (Cross Street Location).

[weaselff 6]

BLS HazTac Units: Manhattan (2H, 4H, 10H), Bronx (17H, 18H, 27H), Brooklyn (31H, 38H, 43H), Queens (45H,49H,52H), SI (22H. 23H)

ALS HazTac Units: Manhattan (8Z, 12Z, 16Z), Bronx (14Z,15Z,17Z, 18Z), Brooklyn (33Z,39Z,48Z,58Z), Queens (46Z,47Z,54Z), SI (22Z)

ALS Rescue Units: Manhattan (7R), Bronx (3R), Brooklyn (35R), Queens (45R), SI (23R)

The Queens "rescue medics" is 49Robert or at least it was as of March '07, I think the CSL was SteinwayXBroadway in Astoria.

[firemoose827 324]

Is it true?

Maybe ESU "looking" vehicles but shortly after NYC EMS merged into FDNY EMS they operated an old REP for EMS' special operations division. This was a carry over from NYC EMS' SOD

The contracted paramedics at JFK airport used to (still do) operate a utility style truck.

In NJ they are a dime a dozen. About 60% of the medic units in NJ doe not transport and respond in SUVs and utulity style trucks.

Some of the NYPD REPs have stars of life in them, maybe to identify the compartment were the medical gear is or just because all ESU members are EMTs.

ESU apparentlly has a Ford Explorer with a star of life on it. These are the ESU paramedics assigned a tactical medics.

Just a quick request here, and I will post it somewhere in the Groups Page as well, but when you use Abreviations, can you please Spell Them Out the first time you use them( With something similar to what I just did) so people who dont know can understand the post better? THANK YOU!!

Moose

PS- What is a "REP" and an "SOD" ?? For those of us not privy to the info.

[JJB531 652]

Moose

PS- What is a "REP" and an "SOD" ?? For those of us not privy to the info.

REP stands for Radio Emergency Patrol.... the ESU Style trucks with the utility bodies are referred to as REP's...

SOD is Special Operations Division

[firemoose827 324]

REP stands for Radio Emergency Patrol.... the ESU Style trucks with the utility bodies are referred to as REP's...

SOD is Special Operations Division

Thank You Brother!! Now hopefully everyone like me understands the post a little better!

[SageVigiles 1,194]

Idea: Someone start a thread that explains all NYC related abbreviations, and a moderator can Sticky it.

[firemoose827 324]

Idea: Someone start a thread that explains all NYC related abbreviations, and a moderator can Sticky it.

Pretty soon we will have a "Sticky" Overload!!

No, I think it would just be easier for the individual making the post to "Spell It Out" the first time, it wont kill anyone to have to type a few extra letters! Besides, you start the sticky topic and you have to keep adding to it, which creates more posts in the sticky, and before long you have to read through 4 pages of abbreviations before you find the one you want. You wont be able to alphabetize the abbreviations, atleast I dont think you can, so searching for them will be difficult. Good idea, but I dont think its too much to ask the poster to spell things out first.

Stay Safe

Moose

[20y2 43]

The Queens "rescue medics" is 49Robert or at least it was as of March '07, I think the CSL was SteinwayXBroadway in Astoria.

That is now 49X, with a CSL of Steinway and Broadway, 45R is out of Woodside with a CSL of Queens Blvd. and 39th St.

[20y2 43]

And just some abbreviations:

RMP-NYPD Patrol car (Radio Mobile Patrol)

REP-NYPD ESU Truck (Radio Emergenct Patrol)

HazTac-EMS' HazMat 'name', specially trained EMTs and medics

Rescue-EMS' 'Crush/Confined Space Medics

SOD-Special Operations Division (both for FDNY, EMS and NYPD, they provide specialized services)

Atom-The EMS 'sector' system, loosely based on the NYPD 'sector' system, it tells the computer the approximate location of the call

CAD-Computer Aided Dispatch

SPRINT-NYPDs CAD system, also viewable by EMS, but NOT Fire, messages from EMS to PD and the reverse come through this

StarFire-FDNY's CAD system, NOT viewable by NYPD or EMS, but the initial call type is sent to StarFire through SPRINT

Suppression- What FDNY EMS calls Fire

CSL-Cross Street Location, the place where an ambulance is supposed to sit at when available (10-89 in the CAD system)

10-13--MOS (no matter what service) need emergency assistance, PD will respond on EMS 13 automatically, as does EMS on PD's, but FD is not usually assigned

Bus-An ambulance, no matter what type

'The Privates'-any transport ambulance, they are not part of the 911 system

'The Voluntaries'-any of the hospital/Transcare 911 ambulances

'The Vollies' AKA 'The Whackers' AKA 'The Buffs'- any of the volunteer ambulance corps

Central- The dispatchers radio designation

Those are the ones of the top of my head that I have seen here. I am well versed in the PD and EMS ones, not so on the FD ones.

Edited March 6, 2008 by 20y2

[JJB531 652]

Thank You Brother!! Now hopefully everyone like me understands the post a little better!

No prob! There's an abbreviation or an acronym for every little thing in NYC...

[helicopper 1,050]

No prob! There's an abbreviation or an acronym for every little thing in NYC...

In NYC? Come on, the FEDS have that market locked up! They have acronyms for acronyms and a 50 page guidebook for them!!!!

[Guest]

EMS is part of the Fire Dept.

There is no REP, they have been done away with.

SOD is a Police term

SOC is an FDNY term-Special Operations Command.

FDNYand FDNY EMS need to start thinking and working together and get with the program. Its been over 10 years since the merger and very little progress has been made.

[NJMedic 96]

Look here for some common NYPD Abbreviations

Edited March 6, 2008 by moosecfd368
moderator added link for poster.