Ice Rescue

[MoFire390 118]

Hey guys just wanted to know how many other departments in Westcher/Putnam/Dutchess have Ice Water Rescue teams.

[Porsha911gt3 8]

East Fishkill in Dutchess does.

[JetPhoto 626]

Dutchess - Chelsea, Glenham, Rombout, Hughsonville, New Hamburg, Wappingers to name a few

In fact I'm going to one Sat. Morning (don't know how much ice their is)

[SageVigiles 1,194]

New Fairfield CT (On the border with Putnam Lake, NY) does not have an official "team" but we are set up for ice rescue with "Gumby suits", a flat bottom boat, and an ice rescue sled, and most of our members are trained in-house for ice rescue.

[Guest]

Mahopac has a team. We got the chance to train once this season. We have @ 25-30 specialists and are planning to have another course next winter '09'

[Guest]

Sleepy Hollow has a Water/Ice Rescue Team as well 20+ certified members

[BFD1054 1,552]

Montrose FD has an Ice-Rescue Team. Im not sure how many guys they have, but they do train quite often, usually using the pond at the Cortlandt Yatch Club.

[MoFire390 118]

Montrose FD has an Ice-Rescue Team. Im not sure how many guys they have, but they do train quite often, usually using the pond at the Cortlandt Yatch Club.

Don't know LT gonna have to wait until next SAT to answer that. We meet to do the class. I thought i heard something about doing a tri-village team but guess that never worked. Last year we had a few guys from Ossining come down and train dont don't know what the progress is with theirs.

[Remember585 815]

Don't know LT gonna have to wait until next SAT to answer that. We meet to do the class. I thought i heard something about doing a tri-village team but guess that never worked. Last year we had a few guys from Ossining come down and train dont don't know what the progress is with theirs.

Don't forget those of us to the south....you know, "Quad-Village..."

[EJS1810 7]

Don't forget those of us to the south....you know, "Quad-Village..."

Now I'm confused, are you South Montrose or Ossininig North?

[Remember585 815]

Now I'm confused, are you South Montrose or Ossininig North?

A little of each. Engine 119 is the Route 9 Express.... making non-stop trips north and south.

[mfc2257 464]

Although not an official team, Millwood trains several times a winter on ice rescue. R-36 is equipped with two suits (there were more budgeted before I left for FLA but I'm not sure if they arrived) and assorted water/ice rescue equipment.

When I was Captain, I was confident that our guys could effect a single victim rescue (assuming they're not submerged and beyond point of entry). With only two suits I'm not sure that we could have handled multiples. I had convinced myself that if I was ever OIC at an ice job (even one victim) in our first due, that I would have my guys in the water, but I would still have 60-Control fill the box with one or more dedicated teams. If my team got it done then I could always turn the other team(s) around.

[SageVigiles 1,194]

Although not an official team, Millwood trains several times a winter on ice rescue. R-36 is equipped with two suits (there were more budgeted before I left for FLA but I'm not sure if they arrived) and assorted water/ice rescue equipment.

When I was Captain, I was confident that our guys could effect a single victim rescue (assuming they're not submerged and beyond point of entry). With only two suits I'm not sure that we could have handled multiples. I had convinced myself that if I was ever OIC at an ice job (even one victim) in our first due, that I would have my guys in the water, but I would still have 60-Control fill the box with one or more dedicated teams. If my team got it done then I could always turn the other team(s) around.

Hey, you do what you can with the resources you have, and always keep help coming. Sounds like a legit plan to me, though I would prefer to have a backup team in place before making entry. I suppose its risk vs. benefit.

Edited February 10, 2008 by SageVigiles

[Guest]

Hey, you do what you can with the resources you have, and always keep help coming. Sounds like a legit plan to me, though I would prefer to have a backup team in place before making entry. I suppose its risk vs. benefit.

wouldent only departments along any type of water need an ice rescue team

[Porsha911gt3 8]

wouldent only departments along any type of water need an ice rescue team

Almost every department has some type of water in its coverage area, whether it be a stream, lake, pond, river or any other body of water. A department does not need to be on a major body of water to have a need for an ice/cold water rescue team.

Edited February 10, 2008 by Porsha911gt3

[JohnnyOV 2]

Yorktown FD has one

http://www.yorktownfire.org/content/dive/

[foreman1923 22]

In putnam you have mahopac falls w/ the dive team and about 5 or 6 ice divers and on ice rescue equipment on the rescue with all members capable of preforming a rescue. Mahopac has about 20 to 30 guys all ice rescue certified

[Guest]

Almost every department has some type of water in its coverage area, whether it be a stream, lake, pond, river or any other body of water. A department does not need to be on a major body of water to have a need for an ice/cold water rescue team.

oh ok but could you say the bigger the body of water there is the bigger team that department would have

[Porsha911gt3 8]

oh ok but could you say the bigger the body of water there is the bigger team that department would have

It all depends on the situation, every call is unique and creates a different set of challenges.

[Guest]

Hey guys just wanted to know how many other departments in Westcher/Putnam/Dutchess have Ice Water Rescue teams.

I can only speak for those department I worked with in to teach them basic Ice Rescue Skills about 10 to 15 years ago. Seems every police or fire department in Westchester has had some form of training and own equipment for Ice Rescue. Also seems most departments get some sort of cold water or ice rescue work each year, from human to animal. Ice rescue can get boaring very quickly, there is only so much ice each year, to play with the equipment and work the people through. Also, it is very important when you find leaks in the suits they get replaced, most fixes begin to leak again. Some department train very hard and should be started out mutual aid automaticly if there is an incident.

[JM15 386]

Somers FD has a dive team. Speaking of resources does anyone know if Mahopac Falls still has the hovercraft? I heard that it was out of service. Any one know if its back, that thing was cool to watch.

[grumpyff 1,159]

Patterson recently purchased 4 suits, and began training today.

[brian19fd 22]

Somers FD has a dive team. Speaking of resources does anyone know if Mahopac Falls still has the hovercraft? I heard that it was out of service. Any one know if its back, that thing was cool to watch.

Hahaha- yes the hovercraft is back in operation... Should have it back on the ice hopefully this week to make sure its up and running after all its fixes and modifications...

[joshlost818 6]

I know that Rye is going through the ice rescue training now and are heading up to a lake north of us where a lake might actually be frozen to practice on.

[Guest jblazing56]

Kent Fire has about 20 guys and girls trained in ice rescue and the equipment. We actually just had a company come in and gives us certified training today and also had Carmel FD come out and learn with us.

[mfc2257 464]

oh ok but could you say the bigger the body of water there is the bigger team that department would have

Plenty of water in the Millwood Fire District.... Amongst others... Gedney Pond, Echo Lake, Stillwater Lake, Croton Resavior, and believe it or not, just below the cliffs of Old Albany Post Road a teensy tiny secton of the Croton River that we'd never get called to.

There isn't enough water for us to have a dedicated team listed with the county, but there is enough for us to provide first response services until Yorktown, Somers, Croton, etc can reach our first due.

[ONEEYEDMIC 68]

Although not an ICE RESCUE TEAM, MT PLEASANT PD has a DIVE TEAM that TRAINS both above and below the ICE. We have cross trained with multiple VFD's in the area. Have all the gear and are looking to take a course. Of course we haven't had much ICE around here in awhile. Maybe after the cold this week we can get out. KEEP US IN MIND.

[Guest]

I can only speak for those department I worked with in to teach them basic Ice Rescue Skills about 10 to 15 years ago. Seems every police or fire department in Westchester has had some form of training and own equipment for Ice Rescue. Also seems most departments get some sort of cold water or ice rescue work each year, from human to animal. Ice rescue can get boaring very quickly, there is only so much ice each year, to play with the equipment and work the people through. Also, it is very important when you find leaks in the suits they get replaced, most fixes begin to leak again. Some department train very hard and should be started out mutual aid automaticly if there is an incident.

What we all need to do other than work together on all types of rescues, is put together a large scale Ice Rescue Drill. I attempted to do this about 8 years ago, simulate a plane crash, we would need about 20 people in cold water, ice rescue suits for the drill even to begin. Then bring several agencies in from all over for the rescue. Like all plain crashes, nothing goes as expected, so if would involve a airport, several ems agencies, FD, PD and special ops groups, dive teams would be involved as well. Working with several differnt agencies on Ice Rescue though the years has only brought me to the understanding the each department is prepared for the one or two fishermen that go through the ice, but no one is ready for much more than that. Even if some department think they are, It is a lot of work to crawl on ice, swim in water, climb back up on ice again and so on, then also remember most department can only go as far as the rope they have will let them. Does everyone know how to rescue someone from the ice, when the rescurers have to start 500' feet from shore to start.

It is a topic that should be discused year round, not only when cold and Ice is on the pond along with the skaters.

[MoFire390 118]

Sorry Remember forgot about you boys in the south.

I was just wondering I noticed that WI holds a ice water rescue class and a swift water rescue class in the same month. Has anyone else heard about it?

[foreman1923 22]

Hahaha- yes the hovercraft is back in operation... Should have it back on the ice hopefully this week to make sure its up and running after all its fixes and modifications...

Hey brian why dont you tell the nice people what happened to the hovercraft in brewster