Firefighter "Down" Training Video

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Denver Drill?

[irishfire2491 24]

nice video

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jdwes32 Posted Yesterday, 12:10 PM

Denver Drill?

I guess it is Denver. I found it on youtube and thought is was preety interesting.

[robert benz 344]

not crazy about it the way they pushed him out the window to a guy on a ladder? that is not the denver manuever not saying it wont work but we have much better options than that

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robert benz Posted 2 minutes ago

not crazy about it the way they pushed him out the window to a guy on a ladder? that is not the denver manuever not saying it wont work but we have much better options than that

I agree with you on that. Probaly more suitable for a first floor window.

[Remember585 815]

not crazy about it the way they pushed him out the window to a guy on a ladder? that is not the denver manuever not saying it wont work but we have much better options than that

Captain Benz,

Watching this a couple of things went thru my mind.

1. If the bars on the window are an obstruction, wouldn't cutting around the window frame eliminate that problem? (Assuming the exterior walls aren't too tough and time-consuming).

2. Assuming once again that the exterior wall is not to tough, breaching it below or even next to the window could be beneficial, no? We were lucky enough a year ago to drill on an old building in Mohegan, and one of our evolutions was to rescue members on the 2nd floor. We cut from the sill to the floor to make the opening not only larger, but easier to remove the brothers. At this same drill, me and a partner had to make entry on the ground floor. The windows were boarded up well so instead of wasting time forcing it off, we cut a doorway out of it and walked in.

3. If they were removing that FF into a TL bucket then it wasn't so bad. But if it is on to a ground ladder, perhaps setting up a belay line with another ladder or aerial as a high point might be better and safer?

Thoughts?

I like that prop, seems simple and could be used for a couple of different things. Good find Nutty.

[firemoose827 324]

I thought of the same thing Remember585, but with cutting through the wall you have to remember one thing...is the downed firefighter right there? Will you cut into him/her in the process? We learned this in our FAST training, and I know it will only work if youre extricating to a tower bucket, its difficult to stay on the ladder and get them out the window. The other option is as you mentioned with the belay line. Set up a 3-1 pulley system on another ladder placed ABOVE the working ladder and have the ground crews hoist them out and set them on the ground. Use handcuff knots on the FF or tie around the FF's pack harness.

Excellent prop, looks cheap enough to make and is easily disassembled for storage. Probably could be used for wall breach too, anyone have a supply list or plan for it?

Moose