New trucks and prices

[Guest x2371]

Looking to gather some data to back up the prices of my 2 new rigs. If any know the price and brand of any Engines and Rescue/pumpers purchased in the last year or two please forward to me. My two rigs range in bids from 900,000 to a little over a million. Commissioner thinks it two much, but I think we are right on target. Please help

[CHIEFPHIL 90]

The Town of Bethel Ct. had it's bid opening yesterday for 2 rigs, a Class A engine and a Tanker. The Engine prices came in from 370K to 385K. The Tanker bids ranged from 255K to 258K. The engine was for a 1500/1000/50 rescue style body. The Tanker was for a 500/ 2500 with minimal equipment on a commercial chassis. Depending upon the equipment added to the rig and or your options requested [special dims /hieght / length, your prices could be right up there. Several area co's up here in Fairfieldcounty are looking at rescue pumpers and they are getting looking at 400K+

[x635 4,066]

As far as I've heard and seen at trade shows and just being around the WC, quality (no low bid crud) Rescue Pumpers usually run in the $400-$500 grand range. Regular engines usually cost around $300-$400. That's if equipment is not included.

Also, for the most part, some commisioners are what's holding the fire service from going foward. If you bought the cheapest E-One out there, they probaly would still think it was "too much". How could buying a Seagrave, two of them, a high quality apparatus that's going to last you and protect the town for the next twenty years, be "spending too much".

[Guest x2371]

Your not telling me anything I Don't know! We already had our bids thrown out once, Our bids range from

$880,000 to $1,020,000. They just think that that is outragous but reality it is the going price for a top line Engine and a Pumper Rescue. If you now any specific price for any trucks pass it on. Thanks

[RES20CUE 40]

Our last pumper bids came in as follows-

KME- $326,157.00- Aluminum Cab, Galvaneel Body

$328,367.00- All Aluminum

$332,641.00- Aluminum Cab, Stainless Steel Body

Pierce Lance- $370,739.00- Stainless Steel Body

$373,939.00- Aluminum Body

Pierce Dash- $364,939.00-Aluminum Body

$368,139.00-Stainless Steel Body

Seagrave- $365,805.00- All Galvaneel

$378,986.00- All Stainless Steel

[Guest x2371]

Which one did you guys go with?

[RES20CUE 40]

The KME All Aluminum.

It's the new Preditor, in which the cab is only made out of aluminum. So we decided to keep it all the same materials.

We also started a new apparatus replacement program, so the Engines are being replaced every 10 years. We are purchasing a new pumper every 2 years.

With this we are able to get a decent trade-in or re-sale value.

These bids were for a 1500 GPM with 1000 Gal Booster Tank, MFD Cab, 8kw Hydraulic Generator, all disc brakes, and aluminum wheels, not to many frills!

NO FOAM TANKS- we are getting away from them!

[Remember585 815]

I hear you on the foam tanks Ed.

We opted not to do it with our new rig, even though some upper management wanted us to do it.

Our E118 has a 100 gallon foam tank (1993 HME/Saulsbury) that IMO is a waste. It never gets used for what it is designed for (because we don't have calls warranting it) and we generally use up the tank once a year on a fire that water would suffice just to use it. I think part of the problem is a lack of understanding when it comes to foam, but sometimes old-fashioned firefighting works better.