Some states put untrained cops on duty

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Does any department around here have this practice?

Some states put untrained cops on duty

By HOLBROOK MOHR, Associated Press Writer

Four months into his job, a police officer in Mississippi holds a gun to the head of an unarmed teenager and puts him in a chokehold. A rookie officer in Illinois gets into a car chase that kills a driver. And a new campus policeman in Indiana shoots an unarmed student to death.

Some are blaming these harrowing episodes on what an Associated Press survey found is a common practice across the country: At least 30 states let some newly hired local law enforcement officers hit the streets with a gun, a badge and little or no training.

These states allow a certain grace period — six months or a year in most cases, two years in Mississippi and Wisconsin — before rookies must be sent to a police academy. In many cases, these recruits are supposed to be supervised by a full-fledged officer, but that does not always happen.

The risks, some say, are high.

"You wouldn't want a brain surgeon who isn't properly trained. Someone shouldn't be out there carrying a badge and a gun unless they are qualified to be out there," said Jeremy Spratt, program manager of the Missouri Peace Officer Standards and Training Program.

No one seems to know how many untrained recruits are on the streets. But the practice appears to be most common among small-town police forces and sheriff's departments.

Many police chiefs interviewed for this story said that for years, they have used less-than-fully-trained officers without problems, and they strongly defended the practice for reasons of money and manpower.

It allows departments to put new hires on the streets right away, without waiting for them to go through police academy training, which is usually a full-time, weeks- or monthslong exercise during which the officer is not on duty but still on the payroll. In some places, there are waiting lists to get into the academy.

Also, some police forces see the grace period as a tryout, during which the department can decide whether the officer is going to work out before it invests thousands of dollars in police academy training. (In several states, if a recruit graduates from the academy, the police force is reimbursed by the state, but not if the officer fails to finish.)

"It lets the officer work for the department for an amount of time to make sure that's what they want to do and make sure that's the right person for the job," said Batesville, Miss., Police Chief Gerald Legge. "We get some people that work a few weeks and say, `This isn't what it was like on TV and this is not for me.'"

Chris Hollingsworth, 24, was hired two weeks ago by the Newton, Miss., police but is not scheduled to go to the academy until April. He said that he is working under the supervision other officers and that he isn't allowed to do much anyway.

"I can see how (the grace period) would be a positive thing as far as letting people see if this is what they want to do for a living," Hollingsworth said. "But I can also can see how it would be a negative thing because you're a real big liability until you go through the training and there's not much you're allowed to do."

In 2003, Robert Duplain, a 24-year-old rookie police officer at Ball State University in Indiana, fatally shot a student — three rounds in the chest and one in the head. The officer is facing a wrongful-death lawsuit.

Duplain had taken only a 40-hour "pre-basic course" consisting of mostly online classes and firearms training, said Rusty Goodpaster, director of Indiana's police academy. Indiana law allows new hires up to one year to go through the police academy, but they can take on enforcement duties before then if they take the pre-basic course, Goodpaster said.

Police said the victim, Michael McKinney, 21, had lunged at the officer, who was responding to a burglary call. McKinney's family said he had gone to the wrong home after a night of drinking.

"When someone's put in a situation where they're given a firearm and they're not trained as they should be, you're asking for trouble," said Tim McKinney, the student's father.

A university attorney would not comment on specifics of the case.

In Illinois, Janice Cole, a 58-year-old nurse, died in 2004 when a police SUV driven by Sparta Police Officer Misty McPherson slammed into Cole's car during a chase.

Charles Chapman, the lawyer who helped Cole's family win $5.4 million in a lawsuit, said a policy that allows officers up to six months to enroll in the academy contributed to the woman's death. McPherson had not even started basic training.

"She didn't even know how to turn the sirens on," Chapman said.

Sparta's police chief did not return a call for comment.

In Mississippi, Greenwood Police Officer Casey Wiggins was captured by surveillance cameras at a high school in the Mississippi Delta in December, pointing his weapon at an unarmed student, 17-year-old James Marshall. Marshall, who was not disciplined by the school or charged with a crime, is suing for $2 million.

Police recruits in Mississippi have two years to get trained, during which time they are supposed to be supervised by a full-fledged officer. But no other office was visible in the surveillance tapes during the confrontation.

"Not only could Mr. Marshall have been killed, innocent bystanders could have been killed as well," said Carlos Moore, the student's lawyer. "Clearly, if Mr. Wiggins had been trained, he would have conducted himself in a more appropriate manner."

Wiggins, through his attorney, has said that he did no wrong and that Marshall resisted when the officer approached a group of students to see what they were up to. A hearing is set for March to determine if the officer should face charges.

Some states — Arizona, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Texas, Utah, Vermont and Wyoming — require training before officers are put on the force. Elsewhere, the rules are different.

"The minute I say, `I do,' I can carry out the laws of small-town West Virginia," said Chuck Sadler, law enforcement training coordinator for West Virginia, where recruits have 90 days to apply to the police academy.

Some states like Tennessee, which allows officers six months to attend a training academy, have considered eliminating the grace period, said Brian Grisham, executive secretary of Tennessee's Peace Officers Standards and Training.

"The days of `Barney Fife, here's your gun and go' are over. You have to be trained first," Grisham said. "There's too much liability."

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im shocked

[helicopper 1,050]

Does any department around here have this practice?

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The law in NY gives a police department one year to have a new police officer trained but the overwhelming majority don't do it - as was said in that article there's way too much liability. If they're carrying a gun they must complete a departmental qualification course and training on Article 35 (Penal Law - dealing with the use of force) but that's about it.

Jobs will often hire a couple of weeks or even a couple of months before the academy starts but they're not usually allowed on the street. They use that time for in-house training, orientations, etc.

It is pretty scary to think that the cop responding to a crime in progress has just a couple of hours of training!

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I think Article 35 is from the Criminal Proceedure Law. Not the PL

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I think Article 35 is from the Criminal Proceedure Law. Not the PL

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It's definitely Penal Law.

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The State of Connecticut has all recruits go through the CSP Academy or local police academy like New Haven and Bridgeport. If you are already a certified police officer and apply to another local police agency then I don't think you have to go to the academy again depending on that department's policy. If you are a recruit for the CSP, you have to attend the academy.

No police agency should not put anyone on the job with out training. It's like throwing a air pack on a new firefighter applicant and throwing them into a burning structure without training.

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No police agency should not put anyone on the job with out training.  It's like throwing a air pack on a new firefighter applicant and throwing them into a burning structure without training.

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Its common practice upstate with smaller departments. I have a few friends who were scared shitless the first time they had to run the street by themselves with no more training than a few weeks ridding along with another officer.

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Yes, it still happens in the Westchester, Putnam, Dutchess areas.

I have a friend who was hired as a PO who rec'd "Peace Officer"

training which lasted two weeks. (Article 35 and Firearms Training)

He did ride with a FTO 80% of the time but would go

out in a car by himself on occasion even respond to jobs solo.

As mentioned you can be hired and have up to one year to attend a

Police Academy here in the State of New York.

2 WEEKS TRAINING and you get in a jam?

Right or Wrong 1-800-LAWYERS would hear cha-ching I am sure $$$$$$$$