Trapped in a garage

[HCFRFF 0]

Do you think they could have prevented this?

[HFD201 0]

definately could have been prevented...they could have placed a tool in the track such as a halligan or could have damaged the track preventing the door from falling on the line and trapping them without a water supply

[goon16 155]

that fire is in a town a couple of miles from were my dad lives in NJ ..... the IC is the lead instructor in the county's fire academy......and we let him teach all new firefighters .......... go figure.........they use this in class in every session of FF 1

[Guest alsfirefighter]

Garage doors should always be attempted to be secured by at least 2 means and cutting the power doesn't count to me. I prefer twisting or deforming the track and having a tool in place to prevent it from coming down as a back up. If it is an older door, they often didn't have the pressure sensitive safety action. I've never seen them fall off when we've played with them, but I always have the thought that if the motor continuously pushed the door down on the vice grips they could dislodge.

I can say this, if you use a pike pole or hook to secure a door...I recommend and only like using steel shaft. I witnessed a heavy wood door for a 3 car garage shatter a fiberglass mid-shaft.

The other point from that video..and it has been around for years.

2 IN/2 OUT!! This is one of the reasons for its inception. They didn't have, or at least it appeared they have very little personnel on scene. FAST/RIT or no FAST/RIT, if they had more personnel on scene more would have acted to help those whom got caught inside.

the IC is the lead instructor in the county's fire academy......and we let him teach all new firefighters .......... go figure

BRAVO!!! This is who you want instructing your new firefighters and experienced firefighters and fire officers!!! Many of the instructors whom I teach with, including myself are firefighters and officers who have learned from their mistakes and we share them. That is called line experience to back up the book knowledge and intelligence. I wouldn't have it any other way.

Edited January 9, 2007 by alsfirefighter

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I saw this video in Probie school.

Although this is an embarrasing moment for that department, it also goes to show the power that photos and video have.

I think many people have learned about the dangers of garage doors, and/or it really sticks in their head, after watching this video.

And not only does this apply to just garage door, this applies to any door- especially those you are running a hose line through.

[Remember585 815]

If memory serves...

I recall being told that the door came down when the tones are transmitted over the radio you can hear. If this is the video I am thinking of, they found out that the tone that was being transmitted on the radio made the remote-control sensor on that door come down.

I agree too that some form of chock or a tool should of been in place to stop that door from coming down.

ALS - good point about learning from experience. It's noble for someone to actually discuss and teach from their experiences, it's one of the key factors that in my eyes, makes a better instructor.

[NJMedic 96]

I remember this job. I was a vollie in the next town north of this company. Very small department. If they get 30 actual dispatches a year thats alot. This video has to be at least 18 years old.