Articulating Fire Apparatus

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I'm suprised no one has come up with a concept for articulating Fire or EMS apparatus.

You'd think someone would at least try to make a Rescue truck out of one of these!!

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[Scottyk107 9]

The engine has to be in the back though doesnt it? Ive never seen a rig where the engine wasnt up front or front to mid. it seems like in the back it would save room your right surprised no one have though of it

[xfirefighter484x 234]

I know it is a little off topic, and I apologize ahead of time, so if there is an issue with the posting of this here in this thread, please let me know, and I can/will start a new thread.

I just figured I would answer a previous question someone had posted.

-xfirefighter484x

The engine has to be in the back though doesnt it? Ive never seen a rig where the engine wasnt up front or front to mid. it seems like in the back it would save room your right surprised no one have though of it

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Ocala, Fla. (April 29, 2004) – While other manufacturers have been struggling to introduce a mid-engine pumper, E-ONE has been quietly building more than one hundred of them over the past five years. And where others use an older engine with limited horsepower, E-ONE uses a current-generation, EPA-certified engine that provides up to 500 horsepower. The advantages of the E-ONE Mid-Engine Hush® pumper include a spacious cab interior with more foot space and elbow room to accommodate personnel wearing bulky turnout gear. It also provides a flat floor that allows a more efficient layout of the cab and gives lots of extra room for additional crew seats, equipment compartments, communications consoles or a command area. With the engine outside, customers say they notice a significant drop in the interior noise levels, making communications easier and reducing long-term exposure to noise. The heat levels inside the cab also drop to provide a cooler environment and a lower load on the air conditioning system. The mid-engine location benefits vehicle technicians by giving them clear access to the engine from both sides for easier maintenance and repair. The pump moves to the end of the frame and can be specified with pump panels on either side of the vehicle to give the operator an open, protected work area away from the intake and discharge hose connections at the rear. Specs for the E-ONE Mid-Engine Hush pumper include EPA-certified Cummins® ISM engines to 500 hp, rear-mount pumps to 2,000 gpm and water tanks to 1,000 gallons. A choice of aluminum or stainless steel bodies are available. E-ONE also offers the Rear-Engine Hush model with EPA-certified Cummins ISL engines to 400 hp, mid-mounted pumps to 2,000 gpm and water tanks to 1,000 gallons. Aluminum bodies are available. E-ONE, Inc. is a subsidiary of Federal Signal Corporation, a publicly held company traded on the New York Stock Exchange (NYSE: FSS). Headquartered in Ocala, Florida, USA, E-ONE, Inc. is a leading ISO 9001 registered manufacturer of fire fighting and rescue vehicles with over 23,000 vehicles in service worldwide. For more information, contact Michael Gordon, Product Manager via phone: (352) 861-6827, facsimile (352) 237-0245 or e-mail at mgordon@e-one.com

Edited December 7, 2006 by xfirefighter484x

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Yeah they are called Tillers Just kidding. E-one does rearmount and I think ALF does a mid engine.

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I know it is a little off topic, and I apologize ahead of time, so if there is an issue with the posting of this here in this thread, please let me know, and I can/will start a new thread.

I just figured I would answer a previous question someone had posted.

-xfirefighter484x

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2000gpm is a lot of water to push with 400hp. Not saying it cannot be done , but ten years down the line with both engine and pump wear some units fail there pump test. Although the ISL in 2007 will be bumped to 425hp.

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[xfirefighter484x 234]

2000gpm is a lot of water to push with 400hp. Not saying it cannot be done , but ten years down the line with both engine and pump wear some units fail there pump test. Although the ISL in 2007 will be bumped to 425hp.

Arrow

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To add to that, this was taken from a Press Release from E-One's website, from 2 years ago.

Things may have changed/gotten better. I don't know, one can only assume.

Just realizing it now, you are really right though. I guess you could consider a tiller articulating vehicle. In theory, that is.

Edited December 7, 2006 by xfirefighter484x

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I'm suprised no one has come up with a concept for articulating Fire or EMS apparatus.

You'd think someone would at least try to make a Rescue truck out of one of these!!

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Seth, as a matter of act, Santa Ana, CA runs a Tillered Rescue. I don't have photos, but I'm sure you can track them down. Hope this helps.

-Joe DA BUFF

[IzzyEng4 427]

The day you stop seeing apparatus accidents is the day you see a fire truck made like this bus. Besides with the weight that is carried on a truck, the chassis will have to be greatly modified. Apparatus will stick only to the tractor / trailer combo due to weight restrictions on a chassis.

[xfirefighter484x 234]

Seth, as a matter of act, Santa Ana, CA runs a Tillered Rescue. I don't have photos, but I'm sure you can track them down. Hope this helps.

-Joe DA BUFF

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A thread about what you mentioned

http://emtbravo.net/index.php?showtopic=10210

Not the truck you were talking about, but a similar one

The link in the thread

http://www.nefea.com/apparatus2.asp?page=apparatus&did=234

[WCDES-FTA 6]

Articulating fire apparatus do exsist. Some of our members who have ARFF or military Firefighting experience might have seen the crash uits that were based on Caterpillar scraper chassis. They usually have the tractor unit from a scraper and then a massive water tank was made with a on-board pump, foam tank and system and then 1 or 2 turrets on top of the unit. They are really unusual in design but I have been told they worked very well. Also a small fire apparatus manufacturer in Canda has been building articulated crash units for work in the regions of Canda and Alaska that are tundra type condidtions, where mud and snow are the norm for most of the year. If I find any photos will try to post them.