SabreJet nozzles like them or what?

[Guest]

We have recently took delivery of the SabreJet combo nozzles, and have gotten mixed feelings about them.

Is everyone familiar with them and what do you think?

[Guest]

hey brother, i would give anything for a sabrejet, i work with brass navy nozzles! they suck! however i like task force tips myself over any other combo

[Guest Moose131]

We have 2 in Peekskill. They seem to work well when structural firefighting (although I have limited use with this nozzle in that situation), however the first time I got to use it was on a dumpster fire and it was terrible. The problem I saw with it was that because of the design on a fog pattern there is no way to control the amount of water you are getting. This caused you to make a choice of either using a straight stream with a lot of power, a fog pattern with a lot of power or a very slight mist. They seem to work well but I would definitely keep a regular fog nozzle on a garbage line or something for smaller fires where you need to control the amount of water you are putting out.

[TRUCK6018 50]

I've used the Saber Jet on a few occasions. I'm not a big fan of it. Like Homer said, it takes two different actions to shut it off.

Like anything else you need to train with them before you would put them in service.

[Guest BXIRONS]

The sabreJet nozzle is an excellent nozzle....for washing the rig.

[calhobs 110]

we took them off all our engines

[Guest DG795]

Apparently Akron got some complaints about the two shutoffs, since the next generation saberjet works entirely off the bail, leaving it half open will activate the fog attachment. haven't tried that one yet.

As far as the dual shut off model, treat it like a smooth bore, with a quick fog capability if needed, such as hydraulic ventilation after a quick knockdown. The nozzle can be very unforgiving if you are at all unexperienced with it. It can also operate at a lower PSI that many other nozzles. I have found that contrary to Akron claims, you cannot operate both the smooth bore and fog simultaneously under standard pressures, and get an effective stream. It's one or the other.

The original model 2 1/2" saberjet is not available in a 1 1/8" tip, only 1". The next generation has 1 1/8" tip models. That 1/8" difference means a variance of about 50gpm-80gpm at 50psi-100psi, the operating pressure for the saberjet.

Letting it drop can also crack the fog open. however, you probably shouldn't be dropping the nozzle anyway.

Leave it behind for rubbish, brush and vehicle fires. As mentioned earlier, the inability to gate down the fog makes it not the best option.

I think it is decent with good capability, just takes some training and getting comfortable.

Edited April 19, 2006 by DG795

[Guest alsfirefighter]

This shows you its mostly a matter of personal preference.

I think the saberjet is aweful. If you don't have solid training, members get confused as to what is what, and what the nozzle can even do. The bale for solid stream (not straight stream moose, that is only for fog nozzles) and turning the stream selector for a fog nozzle application. This causes confusion as homer pointed out. I've had members and students turning the selector to go to fog, and when they shut the bale down they still have water and then the deer in head lights look.

The other problem is the weight of the nozzle for the stream selector at a 50 psi nozzle pressure for the smooth bore. The hose tends to kink coming up off the floor because the weight of the nozzle causes a bend with the lower nozzle pressure. THe hose isn't just as stiff as you would have with a 100 psi fog nozzle pressure.