I'm coming up to the Seminar from Virginia, as we have for the last 6 or 7 years. I am a patch trader and will have a bunch with me from the department I work for in Virginia. If there are any patch traders out there coming to the seminar, please bring one to trade. I will be with the Lake Monticello, Virginia group. We are usually at the front of the room at the end of the Seminar to grab a picture with the speaker. Also, look for Rich Constantino, Elmsford Ex-Chief, and he can send you in my direction. Looking forward to another great seminar and trip to New York! Steve Elliott Lake Monticello Volunteer Fire Department Albemarle County, Virginia Fire Rescue