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This was a big discussion back in 1990, as you can see not much was done. Unfortunately, I think it might be too little, too late. I've posted in other discussions on this board, one of the reason I moved out Pleasantville, was lack of housing I could afford, that my family could fit in. I moved 30 miles north, just within the limits the City of New York places on its employees. Even now, at times, money is tight, even with the wife working. Unfortately, I can see more and more towns/villages going to paid or paid/combination departments, driving the taxes up even more. This will make housing even more expensive for young members, who like, the artcle states

Thats the only picture I have been able to find in my collection, so far. I'll keep looking, since I've moved about 7 times since then. Most of my photos ended up in different boxes .

Fire Apparatus from all over the country, including discusion of the apparatus, both new and old. Great sight to get info to try to find apparatus your dept. may have owned in the past. Firepics.net

The Tenafly Seagrave is 1963 with 250gpm pump and 300 gallons of water. I got the info from : Firepics.net Lots of good photos from all over ther country.

Oh, OK I didn't realise thye still had the muster 3 years ago. These pictures are definately from 1989 or 1990..I was still in HS (boy I feeel old)

Here are some photos I took at the last Croton Muster, I think in 1989. first up is Yorktown Heights Engine 276, a 1934 Maxim. Next is Hope Hose Co. of Tarrytown. it is a 1952 Ahrens-Fox , the last piston-pump to be made by Ahrens-fox. Now up is Beford Hills Snorkle 1, a 85' FWD/Young Pittman Snorkle. Retired in 1999 when replace by TL-57. Unfortunately, I could not get the whole boom in the picture, Finally is a rescue truck from Tenafly,NJ. It appears to be a 1950's Seagrave, but I could not find any info on this unit.

Found these old photos of the 'old 7602', retired from service in 1996(?). It was a Ford E350/Braun Type II ambulance. Fun to drive, once the gas engine warmed up. And finally a shot of the inside, it was very cramped to work in. Also the tinted window allowed bystanders to look in during nighttime use, with the interior lights on. 7602 was equipped with an old Federal model 100 siren, which when changed modes(wail/hi-lo/yelp) would stop and hesitate. Also, the yellow lights on the rear, and round red lights in the grill, were early model strobe light, which you could hear 'discharge' thru the siren speaker located in the middle of the light bar(very loud).

I agree that putting all your eggs in one basket is a bad idea. I can't imagine putting all the dispatchers in one place. Last year in Transit, our dispatchers lost all ability to transmit to units in the field. They are in MetroTech. It was almost 45 minutes until they were able to get the back up site working. The back up site is also in downtown Brooklyn. I would rather see the dispatchers spread out, but connected by high speed intranet connections, with the ability to share info quickly, and if need be cover the others dispatch ability in case something occurs to one dispatch site.

How are you going to verify the info. The phone number I could see, by calling, otherwise my number is unlisted. As for which agency you work/volunteer for...Most prevent/ or should prevent the release of any info. Some may tell you, yes that person works here, some may not. I personally do not want to release my personal info, although my name is on my signature. Nothing against you Seth, but I personally do not trust websites with my personal info, who knows who can hack into this site, and take that info. As for age, again how can you verify this, but age has nothing to do with maturity. As a few others have mentioned, length of service has its good points and bad. What about the 20 year member, who only comes to wash/wax the truck, versus the 5 year member, who is gung-ho, and wants to take every class he can get scheduled for.

If anyone has any info on the above listed apparartus, it would also be appreciated. I know that Yorktown Heights engine 276 is a 1934 Maxim

Does anyone remember when the last fire muster at Croton Point Park was? I recently found some photos I took there, but i never put the dates on them. I will scan the photos and post here ( Under Protection from the Past in the near future) I know i have Bedford Hills old snorkel, Yorktown Heights antique E276, and Tarrytown's Ahrens-Fox.

female+Democrat+minority=NO CHARGES

Good luck to Ardsley FD. Hopefully the new house will be finished on time, it sounds like it is long overdue.

Below is a link to the Today show which aired last week. In the film clip shown, are peoples reaction to an attempted abduction of a young girl on the street, the results are Shocking. Here is the link: Today Show- attempted child abduction. I am not saying that you should physically confront anyone, but like the expert in the clip says "Different actions for different people". Even if you just call 911, and tell them what is going on, your location, and descriptions of the people involved is doing something. If anyone the board knows the two young men from the clip, tell them Thank you, and good job.

Season 1 was the best, but after that it lost my interest. As for the tv show Emergency!, I recently read that Kevin Tighe, and Randolph Mantoothe had to take the paramedic course, for the show. Something about the producers wanting the show to be realistic in its presentation. To hear the theme just click the link in my signature.

Look in this link,The Fire Store, for the different types. I agree, go with the name your dept. uses to lessen any possible confusion.

I have done it with 300-400 lb patients, it still is a strain on everyone invovled. I can't imagine trying to lift someone larger than 600 lbs.( I did a call for a large patient, who was able to walk to our stretcher, and when she sat on it, the stretcher promptly lowered itself from a raised position). Using a large group of people to lift can cause a greater chance to drop the patient, and cause all sorts of injuries to patient and crew alike. Guess what, do you think FD is going to follow you to the emergency dept? I think not. Good luck trying to find enough people at the hospital to help at any time of the day, especially in the middle of the night. This system makes it safer for everyone involved.

Andy, I definately agree with you on the accountability. But what happens when your taxpayers do not see the need to replace, say for example a 25 yr old first due engine? If the taxpayers vote no to save money for this purpose, then you must put out vote for a bond. What happens if the taxpayers vote No to the bond? Sure, you could try to schedule another day to vote, but do you think the average taxpayer is going to change their mind? I'm not saying FD's should be replacing their apparatus every few years(I've heard stories about dept's that have done that, just look at some of the used fire apparatus sites out there), or schedule votes when they know there will be no turnout . I'm just trying to say that departments should have have the ability to set aside some of their budget for future needs(apparatus only). Not an extravagent amount, but say a percentage of the budget, without having to ask the taxpayer to approve it. The taxpayers want accountability, and they deserve so, one option would be to have taxpayers approve the use of apparatus reserve funds for the purchase . Sure the taxpayers could say NO, but the dept could then make the arguement,'how many people would buy a new car without a downpayment". You could then show the price of the apparatus(with interest) with and without such a downpayment.

With all the negativity in the press regarding the Iraq, I found this memorial for Cpl. Brett Lundstrom, 22, a Native American, and US MArine very touching. A nice mix of tradition. Honor that all our troops who make the ultimate sacrifice should receive. Rocky Mountain News

If someone gets a bug up their 'you know where' they will try to legislate anything. Last year the DMV sent out notices to PD that motorcycles where the handlebar are above shoulder height of a seat rider, are illegal, and subject to summons.

Its really simple. Next time you go out to a store/restaraunt, watch people with kids. Most of the time, some parents could care less what their kids are doing, as long as it doesn't bother them. Try a place like McDonalds/Burger King that has an indoor play area. Most of the kids are out of control, while Mom or Dad talk amongst themselves, or are on their cellphones. As for the machine, most of the locks are not that sturdy, a K-tool may work(lock maybe too small) or a haligan to pry open the door. I do like the idea of giving the kid something to cover up with, just in case the glass does break.

"Fire districts could no longer create reserve funds to save up for buildings and trucks without putting their plans to a public vote." That part of the legislation, I could see causing problems in some areas. I could see Joe Blow,taxpayer, wondering why his local FD sets aside say $100,000 per year towards new apparatus, instead of lowering the budget. Of course, this is the same taxpayer who votes NO, on bonds for firehouses, or apparatus, because it will cost him too much. Just look at North White Plains, how many times have they tried to get voter approval to replace, then renovate their quarters. It was well documented the shortcomings/limitations of the current building, but the taxpayers continued to vote NO. Most of the other provisions listed in the article I agree with. What does everyone else think about this proposed legislation?

The toy chute is usually close to floor, and is roughly about 7 inches by 9 inches. Kind of tight, but if the kid's head fits thru, the rest of his body will too. Remember, kids bodies are usually more flexible at this age. I remember this happen a few years ago to another kid.

From what one news agency was saying, it was part of the engine cover, used for noise abatement. The engine could still work, one just louder. Kind of like a car losing its muffler (I guess), only bigger.

I have not seen anything online yet. I just looked at NYC Department of Citywide Administrative Services website, nothing there. Here is the link if you do not have it. Look under 'Open Competitive' Exams. NYC DCAS. Sometimes you can also download the application as well. Hope this helps.