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I think they have a limited production area, so that may have some influence on their decision to bid. Especially in the last few months as departments rushed to avoid the new NFPA 1901 standard going into effect Jan. 1, 2009.

Not Scarsdale,but Hartsdale. When they work, 'Scopes are a great product, but even when built by Baker they are/were maintanence intensive. When they break, they break big with lots of $$$ and headaches to fix.

The comments are unbelieveable!! What a bunch of boobs. Let me guess, they think that somehow, somewhere a bunch of well trained, dedicated volunteers, that are availible to respond 24/7 are going to just magically appear to solve the budget problem. Sounds like they are in for a rude awakening when either: A: their insurance goes through the roof with no fire protection is close by, and B: neighboring departments send a large bill for services provided.

In some volunteer departments, the officer may be the only one who that is qualified to drive. Unfortunately it does happen (more than I like it to). If I am on an apparatus and we know we will be going to work we usually call out which position we will fill i.e. I got the nozzle, I got the irons, etc., and then let the officer in the front know who is doing what. The photo from the live burn drills in Sherman, is one that I took (member of Patterson). I have alot more if you are interested., most ended up the Patterson website. I had just joined Patterson maybe a week or two before the drills occurred.

We have had some discussion on assigned riding positions, and are still trying to figure out some of the details. Now, it is done by who is on the apparatus while responding to the call, and figured out by the crew. When I saw the title of the topic, the smartaleck in my thought of this. This is how I ride:

IIRC Sutphen does not recommend wearing turnout gear while driving. Our operators are required to bring their gear with them. I usually suit up after arriving on scene if I am driving. Drove a few times the gear on, and even with a good pair of leather boots, it was extremely difficult to to do. The pedals are too close together. While in Pleasantville I used to drive the old Hahn all the time suited up, it had huge accelerator and brake petals spaced a good distance apart, that newer apparatus do not have.

What's to be concerned about, it has worked for the last 30+ years. FDNY engines companies only carry engine company equipment, and the first responder equipment. No need for huge compartments to carry the tool, or vent fans (the ladder carries that stuff). Their engines are not jam packed full of crap, only whats need to put the fire out.

NAH, just go back to the old days of slappers, rubber day billets, and leather SAP gloves, along with cops not afraid to use them.

LEDs are great, but they offer no depth perception, while halogen bulbs tend to reflect off of buildings better. Each type of warning light preforms best under different weather conditions, etc. The box is extra storage, for water rescue / SOC support? hazmat, etc, depending on company need from what I've read on other sites.

Does FDNY even have any spare ladders/towers left to loan out? For a while it seemed like a lot of FDNY units were using spares.

Its that time of the year, just before the hollidays when people become depressed. We get a lot of "man unders" in transit as people jump in front of subway trains. Lets hope that with all the economic problems this year, it does not get to bad. My thoughts are with the driver, it is very hard to get over something like this.

Found these two videos on the 'Federal Assault Wespons ban" that some want to bring back this is very educational for people who are not familiar with the provisions of the ban: The second is a little shorter:

Here is a link to another news article with three pictures from the scene http://www.wickedlocal.com/provincetown/ne...truck-overturns Pretty extensive damage to the truck.

Rest in Peace

Fully automatic weapons have been regulated since 1934, with the National Firearms Act. The Assualt weapons ban under Clinton banned semi automatic weapons (one bullet for each pull of the trigger) based upon the name of the weapon such as the AR-15, the Ak-47, the M-16, or based upon looks such as flash supppressor, bayonet lug, folding stock, all parts the have no effect on how fast you fire rounds by pullling the trigger. Gun owners be very afraid of Obama. PLenty of safeguards and background checks are already in place, why not actually enforce them, instead of passing more useless legislation. It will be really interesting when the first piece of legislation makes it to Obama's desk, will he vote Present?

Cant Pay Rent

Go to a store and try them out. I went to Best Buy one day to look, and when I first picked up the Canon products I thought they were to light, and had a feeling that it was not that durable. The Nikon was heavier, and felt like it would take some abuse.

Look closely at the the second floor windows on the the right...it looks like there is some type of security bars inside the window. Something hard to see in this photo, but impossible at night in a smokey environment.

You can just see the end of the loop in front of the booster reels in this photo.

Are your crosslays similar to the ones in the photo of Pleasantville's ex- R47? Our crosslays were three wide as well. The foward one had 200 feet of 1 3/4 , the rear had 300 feet 1 3/4 hose. We would single lay the bottom of the bed, and then take the last 50 feet and pack in a big donut. The hose would stand on its side, and be packed inside the loop, with the nozzle ending in the middle of the loop. The nozzle man would grab the nozzle and loop, and the back up would grab the line as it played out of the bed. The nozzleman would end up with 50 feet of hose already with him/her, where ever you needed to go. If you needed less line, it was easy to break. Unfortunatley I never got a better photo of the crosslays.

I'd help, but it looks like I am a day late and a dollar short

I'd agree with most everyone here for a 1 to 2 story private dwelling...charge at the front door, check nozzle then enter (with SCBA). During a recent class I took, we did a 'dry run' to practice hose management before any fires were set. One thing we learned real quick... chock the doors, and communicate with each other. During one of the dry runs, the uncharged hose slid right under a door, thereby making it impossible to advance to line, or charge it if needed. The nozzleman and back up attempted to continue pulling until the third man told them to stop so that the hose could be removed from under the door.

The answer would be NO. Once Brookfield gets it, thats it. They will sell nothing. I tried to buy stuff from them before (ex-Pleasantville R-47), only to be given the run around (sold overseas, cut up, not for sale, etc.)

IIRC it is a one of a kind collaboration between Mack and Sutphen(?)

Around 1106 hours Patterson FD was dispatched to 206 Cornwall Meadows Lane for a report of an oil/gas odor in the residence, as well as the neighboring unit (#205) in the Cornwall Meadows townhouses. It was determined to be a petroleum based product, most likely old gas dumped into the storm drain. Putnam County Hazmat as well as NYSEG, NYC DEP, DEC and Dept. of Health were on scene. Here are some photos my 13 year old son took during the incident, except where noted. 22-2-1 and 22-5-1 on scene 22-6-1 is staged around the corner