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You would think with all that manpower we were told they have they could have used it. 

You would think with all that manpower we were told they have they could have used it. 

Not withstanding our wishes for the speedy and complete recovery of the injured firefighters, I don't think this thread is about the hazards and suppression methods for a basement fire.
 
Its about staffing. One of these days Westchester is going to experience the unfortunate outcome that comes from the inability of the volunteer and paid depts to maintain proper staffing. It will be a sad day for all involved, but we will be able to look back at the hundreds of posts on forums such as this one and wonder why something so recognizable went unsolved. It will provide no comfort.

Prayers for a speedy recovery to the injured WP brothers....
 
Sounds like they made an aggressive interior attack and conditions got s**tty. Unfortunately, from what I've heard, they are far understaffed. Knowing that, these men still went all in and gave it their all. This is what they're trained to do and they do so for the residents and visitors of WP. 
 
Hopefully, the powers that be will see this as a wake up call. Now is the time to properly staff your FD! 
 
Again, hope for the best for the injured members.

The biggest issue appears to be the amount of time it took to get any water on the fire. The videos is edited so we can't get an actual time line of what occurred.

That was one of many of Bud's projects.  Spent city money and man power time restoring and maintaining that truck and a old wannabe military style Jeep(was a old jeep from the 80s with square head lights) while the employees of White Plains we're driving around in  run down, old out of date  and falling apart vehicles claiming they had no money  to fix them. Probably one of the reasons he was relieved of his duties as commissioner

Remember you have to be nice to the inmates or you will be brought up on charges, sued  or fired because you violated their rights. 

Remember you have to be nice to the inmates or you will be brought up on charges, sued  or fired because you violated their rights. 

Remember you have to be nice to the inmates or you will be brought up on charges, sued  or fired because you violated their rights. 

Remember you have to be nice to the inmates or you will be brought up on charges, sued  or fired because you violated their rights. 

Hopefully they'll show the abuse of the 911 system.

Hopefully they'll show the abuse of the 911 system.

They can call Port Chester  volunteers they have over 300 !

Under the circumstances this is really BUSH LEAGUE

Looking at this i have to wonder, do they staff the firehouse now? Like are there 4-6 guys per rig in the station 24/7? That to me would be what that sign is saying. I know in some towns (not Westchester), the house is manned at all times. There are bunks and rooms where guys sleep the over night. I have a feeling that while their hearts are in the right place, they are not giving the people of Port Chester what they deserve. I don;t think we have to wait for someone to die or be seriously hurt to start doing what is right. Letting guys go solely to help a line in the budget was not a good move. As a career guy i am also offended that they say they are "Professionally Staffed". This is not their job. This is what they volunteer to do. The guys who's profession this was were let go in the most egregious manner possible. 

Shouldn't that say "Professionally Staffed by a guy who lives in FL during the winter cause its cold up here. He is old and only makes 4 calls a year but hey we need the numbers". Maybe that is a bit to long. Bring back the Actual Professional firefighters and release your rolls. Are they still scared people will see what a fraud you have been perpetrating with these claims of 300 active members?

Saw this today on my way to Costco. Seems a little bit unprofessional  if you ask me due to the circumstance

 
I guess you can assume from this that the volunteers have accepted that there will be no paid personnel in, at least, the near future. And, I agree this is in poor taste given the circumstances by which their paid 'brothers' lost their jobs and livelihood.
 

If the members currently assigned to this firehouse want to be considered "professional" then they must meet those "professional standards". Beginning with a quick response out the door when the alarm comes in. The question is, "will they be able to replace the laid off professional career firefighters who once operated out of that firehouse" ? That means 24 hours a day/7 days a week.
 
 Any one who has ever been inside a burning building knows very well how dangerous it is and how quickly that heat and smoke can build up. As firefighters operating inside those buildings we get to appreciate our protective equipment, and our life saving air pack giving us fresh air. It's tough enough for those guys, BUT for the UNtrained and Unprotected citizens trapped in there, "IT's VERY MUCH WORSE".
 
  THEY CAN NOT SEE
  THEY CAN NOT BREATHE
  THEY BECOME DISORINATED
  THEIR SKIN MAY START TO BURN
 
 Every passing second counts as they try to breathe. For those people there may be no way out. The super heated air that's left starts to burn their lungs as every breath they try to take. They are the one's that will truly decide at that moment who the Professionals really are. The Professionals will make the utmost attempt at getting them out because that's their job and there is NO TIME TO WASTE. This is NOT a Game or some Make Believe Training session. But in a matter of minutes, people could die. Somebodies mother, father, brother, sister, friend. Maybe somebody you know.
 
 At least to me, I consider BOTH Career and Volunteer Firefighters to be Professionals with a very important job to do. But here in Port Chester, it was decided that this job can be completed WITHOUT the use of any career firefighters. Most places these days find it to be quite the OPPOSITE though. Due to todays very busy work schedules and much more training requirements, the volunteer numbers are dwindling and it is necessary to hire MORE Career Firefighters. Not really because they want to, but because they HAVE TO. It is just more and more difficult these days to count on the skills of the required number of volunteer firefighters.
 
 We can assume that Port Chester is about to prove otherwise. As Professionals, those Volunteer Firefighters should be able to prove themselves "Each and Every Time", without the use of any Career Firefighters. So with this unique, newly created situation, many of those involved in todays fire service will be closely watching. "I know I will". But most importantly, for the Citizens who live and work in Port Chester, and for those PROFESSIONALS that Protect Them, "IT'S SHOWTIME".
 
  

Saw this today on my way to Costco. Seems a little bit unprofessional  if you ask me due to the circumstance

And to think this piece of sh#t pleaded not guilty!!!! What a joke. Just put him away for life or give him the death penalty and save us the time and money of a trial.(either way we will be paying )  So now a homeless career criminal will have a roof over his head and 3 meals a day while 5 kids are without a mom who was WORKING to save lives and support her family. Sounds like the piece of sh#t will benefit from his actions.

And to think this piece of sh#t pleaded not guilty!!!! What a joke. Just put him away for life or give him the death penalty and save us the time and money of a trial.(either way we will be paying )  So now a homeless career criminal will have a roof over his head and 3 meals a day while 5 kids are without a mom who was WORKING to save lives and support her family. Sounds like the piece of sh#t will benefit from his actions.

And to think this piece of sh#t pleaded not guilty!!!! What a joke. Just put him away for life or give him the death penalty and save us the time and money of a trial.(either way we will be paying )  So now a homeless career criminal will have a roof over his head and 3 meals a day while 5 kids are without a mom who was WORKING to save lives and support her family. Sounds like the piece of sh#t will benefit from his actions.

And to think this piece of sh#t pleaded not guilty!!!! What a joke. Just put him away for life or give him the death penalty and save us the time and money of a trial.(either way we will be paying )  So now a homeless career criminal will have a roof over his head and 3 meals a day while 5 kids are without a mom who was WORKING to save lives and support her family. Sounds like the piece of sh#t will benefit from his actions.

And to think this piece of sh#t pleaded not guilty!!!! What a joke. Just put him away for life or give him the death penalty and save us the time and money of a trial.(either way we will be paying )  So now a homeless career criminal will have a roof over his head and 3 meals a day while 5 kids are without a mom who was WORKING to save lives and support her family. Sounds like the piece of sh#t will benefit from his actions.