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For 15 minutes rigs kept coming in? I'd love to know what Department did this...... 15 minutes, huh?? That's a LONG time to keep responding.......

It's not a secret Seth, and I'll guess that more than half the people on this site DON'T pay my salary, it's just not something I'm going to post for all to see. What salary we get after starting pay is what my Union negotiates for me and my fellow YFD members and it's our business. If John Q taxpayer wants to know what it is, and he's a Yonkers taxpayer, let him go to City Hall and ask. This isn't the place... When a certain someone was a firefighter, I don't remember seeing his former Dept's salary posted for all to see, except that one time he posted his Chief's salary... and that was wrong and I told him so in a PM... I contribute to my doctor and lawyer's salaries every time I visit them but I don't ask them how much they make a year. It's out of respect, and I bet they make more than me... As far as residency is concerned, absolutely resident's get first preference. If you want to work in Yonkers bad enough, move there and establish a residence. That's exactly what I did when I left my first Dept. I bought a Co-op on Midland Ave., took the test the next year and got on. Just understand that the YPD does investigate fully to see if you really live where you say you do. And they do investigate. We didn't take someone for our last class because they didn't live in Yonkers and there are plenty of men from the past that got threatened with arrest for lying about their residency and weren't hired.

Starting pay is $67, 291, not $69, 291...... ....and we like to keep the range to ourselves.....no offense...

Oswego, No......... It is not a "re-tone". It's an alert/notification to the rest of Companies that a 10-30 has been called. That's it. It most certainly is not a re-tone. When you read the reports, it's not listed as "re-toned" a 10-30. 10-30 in Yonkers just means that we're using the full first alarm assignment. M.S.U. is called, and I believe a D/C also. I think even Con-Ed......I'm sure Chief Flynn can confirm. It isn't even a Second Alarm. From what I got from this thread, re-toning is calling for men to respond that haven't already; an additional tone out to let volunteer members know help is needed now. Even the VAC's re-tone 2 sometimes 3 times for members to respond before they need to call M/A. I just don't think it's the same thing....

No way!! I think the bashing, ball breaking and comparisons make most of the topics on here fun to read and follow!! It can add to idea exchange and give insight into what the job is all about. As Get the Roof said in another topic, "3/4's of you wouldn't last at the kitchen table at the end of the shift." (the Nancy Boy line was one of the BEST lines I think I ever read here!!) The rest of you wouldn't make it through the day at most of the firehouses I've worked at. You have to have thick skin in this business......there's no crying in Firefighting..... And I am VERY against the editing of posts by moderators. They should contact the person who made the post and give them a chance to retract/edit their own posts instead of taking it upon themselves to edit/delete. That's censorship and not what free speech is about. And I've said it before and I'll say it again: Everyone wants to be a paid Firefighter. Period. There isn't one Volunteer who would turn down a paid job in Anytown, U.S.A. (How many of you saw Yonkers FD's recent job announcement in the Journal News and filled out applications or wished they had a Yonkers address?) OK, so now this post will get edited too, right??

Date:3/20/2008 Time: 21:08 Location: 260 Valentine Lane Units Operating: 304, 303, 306, 307, 312, 308, 309, 71, 74, 75, 72, Res 1, Safety, MSU, Batt 1 & Batt 2. Description Of Incident: 2nd Alarm, Heavy Fire 3rd Floor, Multiple Rescues, 7 Story Ordinary Construction. Writer: yfd910

HEY!!!!!!!

My question is: What is "re-toned"?? In the Incident Alert, the Alarm time is given at 2005, then Briarcliff is "re-toned" for the working structure fire at 2008!!!.....Why are they being re-toned? Is it a second alarm? Or is that like being called again?? Do you wait for someone to confirm it's a fire and play catch up before responding?? "Hey, we really have a fire!! No bull***!!! We need everyone now!! Come on, guys!! I know American Idol just started, hope you have a DVR!!" I just don't get being re-toned......Do you guys pick and choose what calls to go on based on the type of call, time of day, or whether it's a job or not?? I know all volunteers sacrifice their personal lives to help others, but to have to be re-toned 3 minutes later....well, something is wrong. Could you imagine what would happen if an entire first alarm in Yonkers had to be called again after 3 minutes?? That's 3 minutes that were lost in fighting that fire. Luckily, no one got hurt. Forgive me if I have this all wrong, but I'm just reading timestamps and wondering why.............

Please smack yourself for me, kid.........thanks....

No, he performs circumcisions and then lights fires............

Yeah, it's missing from the blog and the forum...........what happened???

Wow.........

On the County list, it's not your rank that counts but your grade. Like Demps121 said and the link to the NYS Dept of CC, everyone with the same grade is the same rank number, especially if you live in a town with a paid department that requires residency. I don't know what happens when it comes to those who live in Dutchess or in a town without a paid department. Any Department has to interview all of one grade before moving on to the next lower grade once they get down to 2 or less. In the past, I've gotten letters from Scarsdale and Rye Brook with a grade of 90, after about 2 years. Best bet, call Westchester County Civil Service. Maybe the lady there can and will answer any questions. My best advice is to establish residency in a town with a paid department and get a high score. Remember that there are only what, 15 paid departments, with the 4 cities having the most FF's, and I was told this was the biggest turnout for the FF exam. My best guess would be a couple thousand took that test for very few positions. I think Eastchester is the biggest department (not including the cities) and they usually take 10-12 off of a 4 year list and require residency. That's not a lot. And the Yonkers test is no secret......I just stated I don't know when it is because if I hadn't, I'm sure a number of people would've asked. That's all. If you're not a resident by the time the application comes out, it's too late and you're making a donation to the city and taking a test for experience. We do check residency here, and I believe one member of this board was bumped for not being a resident. Joe

LP, The Towns and Villages in Westchester, plus the cities of Rye and Peekskill, use the same written test, scored with block grading. Scores are based in groups of 5 starting at 100, 95, 90 down to 70. There are no 87, 93 or 98's, etc. I always laugh when someone tells me they got an 87 as it just doesn't happen that way. I've been told that block grading is a way to bypass the consent decree, which the cities have. When the scores come out, each Department gets a list from West. County Civil Service office with the scores of their residents. A handful of departments, I believe, do sometimes get a County list also, which has everyone and their score who took and passed the test from throughout the County, if these towns don't require residency. To be considered a resident in most places, you need to establish residency before the applications come out, which is usually 3 months prior to the test date. I don't think where you live matters too much to the Departments that don't require residency (2 guys I know lived in Yonkers and were hired by Lake Mohegan years ago). I don't think your rank on the County list is anything to get too excited about, as Demps121 said, it's all block grading and everyone within a certain grade bank has the same rank and chance. The only time a Department can go to the next lower grade bank is when there are 2 or less candidates in a certain bank. It's all explained on the NYS Civil Sevice web site. http://www.cs.state.ny.us/jobseeker/faq/scorenotices.cfm When a Dept. needs men, most first conduct an interview, then send the candidates to the County physical. After passing the physical, the Dept. makes it's selection, they send you for a medical exam, and off to the academy you go...... That's just my basic idea from past experience. The 4 cities; Yonkers, Mt. Vernon, New Rochelle, and White Plains do their own testing and physicals, scored to the hundreth of a point, and they're pretty serious about residency, and are held to the Vulcan Consent decree. Only Yonkers runs it's own academy, the other cities ( I think ) send their men to a County Academy class. Did I miss anything??? Hope I helped. Joe And I don't know when the next Yonkers test is, so don't ask.

So is anyone going to post their grades? My brother got a 90%.

Yonkers Fire has 3 FF's and 1 Officer (4men) on each of it's 18 Companies - 11 Engines, 6 Ladders & 1 ALF Eagle Tandem Axle Heavy Rescue. Empress provides Medical Service and Ambulances, and there are no Volunteers.

Nice site...keep it up.

Rest In Peace Kevin

You've got to be kidding me!!!!!!

It's amazing that on this board with all the stupid taglines/signatures of "work together, win together" "train hard" "enthusiast" "pursuing fire career", etc. that there are people here who are against making a full time Career Chief, especially career men who try to point out the cost of this. Not to mention in the above quote, the volunteer officials(??) who are against this position. You guys really need to get a grip on the fire service in general. So many of you talk about protecting the public, and then rant against the creation of a position to oversee that protection on a full time basis?? Obviously, the Mayor feels someone needs to be held accountable for this protection. From what I read there are 2 Captains in Larchmont. One of them becomes Chief, promoted from within. Up until they both take the test, a chief can be appointed as provisional. A Captain to Chief, a Lt. to Captain, a FF to Lt., and possibly....a volunteer (who's on the list!!) to FF?? Is there really something wrong with that?? Like I've said before, the test is in June, how many of you volunteers in Larchmont, or all over the county will be taking that test??? All?? Most? Trust me, drive by the testing site and you'll see the Chief Cars outside, the stickers on the windows, blue lights on the dashboards and all the Dept. T-Shirts on everyones backs. Everyone wants to be a FF. And why the hell are the volunteers so against this?? Balance of Power?? Are you the same induviduals who say "protect the public"??? What are you so afraid of? Losing your "Wet-down" parties?? Inspection parades?? Company get-togethers?? You talk about a cost factor of thousands of dollars , and yet you're the same people who knock on the doors of these taxpayers and use fill the boot drives to ask for money (donations) for your Company parties?? I understand the cost does have a domino effect, believe me I do, but millions of dollars should not be placed in just anyone's hands. Like someone said in an earlier post, look at what happens in Long Island and the "charity" money that was used to fund vacations in New Jersey. This is another example that combination departments do not work when "balance of power" is an issue or deciding factor, and consolidating departments in Lower Westchester is around the corner. The study is being done using Yonkers as a model, and I'm sure in the next few years it will be a reality. A full-time staffed, career fire district in Lower Westchester, protecting the public 24/7/365.

I CAN'T BELIEVE ANY OF YOU GUYS ACTUALLY BELIEVED ME WHEN I SAID WE WERE GOING TO HAVE ROTO-RAYS ON OUR RIGS!!!!!! AND YOU'RE UPSET ABOUT IT!!!! HOW SAD!!!! THERE WILL NEVER BE A ROTO-GAY ON A YFD RIG!!!!! LET IT GO ALREADY!!!!!!!!

Con Edison's meters are locked. Even if you had that tool, you'd have to unlock the meter first, which only they have the key to. Just turn off the main breaker, if you can safely, to get by until ConEd shows up. That tool is worthless around here.

Way to be positive, Probie!! This project means millions in revenue to the City of Yonkers Schools, Police and Fire. Your fellow "IAFF BROTHERS", whose sticker you have next to your name and on your car, are counting on this project going through.........get a grip, will ya!!

It may seem like a good idea on paper, but I don't think it's feasible. Too many questions to go along with it. I think it will be another over used and abused thing like mutual aid. I think the County is too big for one unit. What would happen in the case of fires at opposite ends of the county, even if they're not at the same time? How many people will staff it? 24/7? On call? Paid? Volunteer? Who's going to fund it? Will it be equally divided among departments? What happens when one department uses it more than the others? Who's going to be in charge of it? The County, but with all the departments paying for it? I'm not sure which departments have their own cascade system, which I would guess most do, but I don't think there's a real need for a county wide MSU before other issues are addressed like a county wide or southern westchester department, automatic mutual aid or responses, etc. I'm not trying to be negative about it, but you all know when it comes to more than one fire department and sharing resources, like in L.I., there are way too many questions, and most depts. don't like to share. If the DES dispatchers need raises, I'm sure there are other ways for them to get a raise without relying on the local departments spending their own money to buy equipment and funding something that really isn't needed.

Mack, This is the closest to Yonkers Fire a Roto-Ray will ever get...................