DaRock98

What the hell happened there?

Yes Hawthorne does have 2 paid EMT's from Empress EMS staffing the ambulance 24/7.
Yes the paid staff does respond mutual aid so yes they do respond into Pleasantville.
And despite what others posted in here Hawthorne FD has recruited members for EMS over the years. The new recruits join and feel that unless they are sitting at the station 24/7 it is hard for them to respond to calls and get any real time and on the job training because they can never make it down to the firehouse before the ambulance gets out the door. Those members resign fairly quickly and have been told to try other VAC's for example PVAC. Having paid staffing in our EMS system to me is a double edge sword on one hand the ambulance is getting on scene in a timely fashion to provide quality pt care but on the other hand it deters a lot of new recruits away.
I've been saying this for years that its time for a Mt. Pleasant EMS system to take place.... PVAC is the last VAC in Mt.Pleasant to run a strictly volunteer ems system they see the issues they are having and are working towards a solution. Maybe its time for everyone to look at the bigger picture here and combine EMS services in the Mt.Pleasant area.
Maybe we can stick to the topic at hand now about EMS service in the Mt. Pleasant area. If someone would like to talk about Thornwood FD and Hawthorne FD's dual response they had set up for 1 year we can start a separate topic.
Joe Carpentieri

Hi, sorry I'm a little late on this post. I am the new Captain of PVAC. We are working on correcting our problem. If you have any questions, please send me a private message.

Yes Hawthorne does have 2 paid EMT's from Empress EMS staffing the ambulance 24/7.
Yes the paid staff does respond mutual aid so yes they do respond into Pleasantville.
And despite what others posted in here Hawthorne FD has recruited members for EMS over the years. The new recruits join and feel that unless they are sitting at the station 24/7 it is hard for them to respond to calls and get any real time and on the job training because they can never make it down to the firehouse before the ambulance gets out the door. Those members resign fairly quickly and have been told to try other VAC's for example PVAC. Having paid staffing in our EMS system to me is a double edge sword on one hand the ambulance is getting on scene in a timely fashion to provide quality pt care but on the other hand it deters a lot of new recruits away.
I've been saying this for years that its time for a Mt. Pleasant EMS system to take place.... PVAC is the last VAC in Mt.Pleasant to run a strictly volunteer ems system they see the issues they are having and are working towards a solution. Maybe its time for everyone to look at the bigger picture here and combine EMS services in the Mt.Pleasant area.
Maybe we can stick to the topic at hand now about EMS service in the Mt. Pleasant area. If someone would like to talk about Thornwood FD and Hawthorne FD's dual response they had set up for 1 year we can start a separate topic.
Joe Carpentieri

You're making your own case for it. Consolidate the five or six different agencies within the town into one and now you're paying one insurance bill, you can probably reduce the size of the fleet, you have all kinds of economies of scale, and most important - all the members would be able to respond to any calls anywhere in the town. Paid personnel could be strategically based to cover the most calls efficiently and volunteers could be used to augment.
I don't really see a downside. As for losing out on money, who's really making any???

Yes Hawthorne does have 2 paid EMT's from Empress EMS staffing the ambulance 24/7.
Yes the paid staff does respond mutual aid so yes they do respond into Pleasantville.
And despite what others posted in here Hawthorne FD has recruited members for EMS over the years. The new recruits join and feel that unless they are sitting at the station 24/7 it is hard for them to respond to calls and get any real time and on the job training because they can never make it down to the firehouse before the ambulance gets out the door. Those members resign fairly quickly and have been told to try other VAC's for example PVAC. Having paid staffing in our EMS system to me is a double edge sword on one hand the ambulance is getting on scene in a timely fashion to provide quality pt care but on the other hand it deters a lot of new recruits away.
I've been saying this for years that its time for a Mt. Pleasant EMS system to take place.... PVAC is the last VAC in Mt.Pleasant to run a strictly volunteer ems system they see the issues they are having and are working towards a solution. Maybe its time for everyone to look at the bigger picture here and combine EMS services in the Mt.Pleasant area.
Maybe we can stick to the topic at hand now about EMS service in the Mt. Pleasant area. If someone would like to talk about Thornwood FD and Hawthorne FD's dual response they had set up for 1 year we can start a separate topic.
Joe Carpentieri

Ossining has a lot of firefighters and a lot of apparatus. And being that many units directly surrounding Valhalla were called in, It makes sense to bring in 1 & 1 from OFD. Armonk and W. Harrison are better left alone in a situation like this to cover other calls, especially since they're both responders to the airport (which the county considers a big deal). You also have to remember that you can't strip all of your neighbors of equipment and manpower. Sometimes you have to call in someone from a few towns away so you can keep responders available for everything else. It's really like a game of chess when you bring in mutual aid and stand by companies.

Mt. Pleasant Police has a dive team as well.

The city writes a check and a few months later the truck shows up. How does it work by you?

This is a normal response for a missing person or person injured on one of the trails. Also, there has been some arguing over the years of which jurisdiction the parking lot falls into.

You missed the planning meeting when this response protocol was put into play for all emergencies in the park. The parking lot is HFD's jurisdiction. TFD has the emergency access point at the SMP/Marble Ave and PFD has the access point off Foshay Ave.

This will be first due to MVAs, car fires, brush fires, CO calls, wires and gas calls etc. Yes it will replace TL 12 in the bay.

Unprofessional would be department's not getting off of 46.26 when everyone else is on a trunk frequency, or there's is an actual run or a job ongoing or getting on the radio to give your noon time test when companies are currently on a run or just finishing up. This guy just decided to man up and say what a lot of us are already thinking!

My name is Vincent Antonecchia, I am a Sergeant with the Westchester County Police and the Commanding Officer of The Westchester County Police Aviation Unit. After being alerted to the content of this forum, I am compelled to respond professionally, clear up any false information or misconceptions and provide accurate details about our capabilities and the mechanism for requesting our services.
We are still very much assisting regional jurisdictions and municipalities. The Unit consists of six police officers, including myself and we are all trained as Tactical Flight Officers. One officer is our Unit mechanic. He is A&P/IA licensed through the FAA and has extensive experience and training in the commercial aviation industry. We currently have two Bell 407 helicopters and there are four commercially rated helicopter pilots with varying backgrounds, training and experience. Safety is our number one priority and we strive to be available and provide whatever resources we can to Police, Fire and OEM's. Recently, at the request of the Westchester County DPW, we used our infrared FLIR technology to locate a large underground steam leak at the Westchester Medical Center and prevented the need to dig multiple and costly search holes.
We are available 24/7/365, but obviously limited during inclement weather, high winds, crew availability and concurrent operations. Due to manpower limitations, calls for service and budget constraints, we staff the Unit five days a week from 0900/2400 hours. Our services are FREE as we are a regional asset and regularly operate outside of Westchester County. Any municipality requesting air support should contact the WCPD Desk Officer at (914) 864-7890. Any specific questions concerning the Unit and our capabilities can contact me directly at (914) 995-5019.
The following is a list of our most commonly requested services and capabilities in no particular order:
Bambi-Bucket (fire fighting) operations. We do not require Forest Ranger of SEMO authorization to be called, but requests should be based on common sense, severity and requesting agency protocols FLIR (Infrared) searches (day & night) - Great for locating suspects, lost hikers or "Hot-spots" at fire scenes Ice/water rescue Scene Illumination Aerial photography (Video and/or stills) Surveillance and/or reconnaissance Live video microwave downlinking Project Lifesaver Special Response Team and/or equipment insertion or extraction Scene Illumination Locating and identifying fuel spills/contamination of waterways Force multiplier We are currently conducting hoist training with the WCPD Emergency Services Unit and Marine Unit and will have this completed in mid-May.
Thank you to all who have supported our cause and utilized our services. We look forward to providing whatever regional air support is necessary to increase safety and enhance or further your mission success.

Considering Thornwood, Valhalla, Pleasantville and Elmsford all have Tower Ladders we have no need to replace it with another Tower Ladder. Spin the wheel pretty much nailed it.

Considering Thornwood, Valhalla, Pleasantville and Elmsford all have Tower Ladders we have no need to replace it with another Tower Ladder. Spin the wheel pretty much nailed it.

The tower is being replaced with a Sutphen engine. There are no plans to replace the 75ft stick.

Looking at your post above and going to your profile all we see is that you're a male from Yonkers, so what's your beef if you're not even doing what you've stated above?

Date: 11/7/13
Time: 0530 (approx)
Incident Type: Structure Fire
Location: 55 Nepperhan Ave
District: Elmsford
Units:
Elmsford : 2111 (IC), 2112, 2113 E137, E237, TL21, L55, U86 and 58B1
Fairview: E175
Irvington: 2201, 2202 L36
Valhalla: 2481, R9 (Fast)
Hawthorne FD: 2192, 2193 E155
Hawthorne EMS: 63-B2
Elmsford PD, Greenburgh PD
Hartsdale: E170 (Orignially To relocate to Elmsford HQ and than re directed to the scene)
Ardsley: L50 (Relocated to Elmsford HQ)
Tarrytown: E80 (Relocated to Elmsford HQ)
Thornwood: 2472, R75 (2nd Fast)
WCDES: Batt. 11 and C&O Zone 3
Description: Working structure fire in a commerical building. Heavy Fire upon arrival all units removed from the building due to structural damage. Valhalla Fast put to work requesting 2nd Fast. All M/A units released at approx 0930.

Date: 11/7/13
Time: 0530 (approx)
Incident Type: Structure Fire
Location: 55 Nepperhan Ave
District: Elmsford
Units:
Elmsford : 2111 (IC), 2112, 2113 E137, E237, TL21, L55, U86 and 58B1
Fairview: E175
Irvington: 2201, 2202 L36
Valhalla: 2481, R9 (Fast)
Hawthorne FD: 2192, 2193 E155
Hawthorne EMS: 63-B2
Elmsford PD, Greenburgh PD
Hartsdale: E170 (Orignially To relocate to Elmsford HQ and than re directed to the scene)
Ardsley: L50 (Relocated to Elmsford HQ)
Tarrytown: E80 (Relocated to Elmsford HQ)
Thornwood: 2472, R75 (2nd Fast)
WCDES: Batt. 11 and C&O Zone 3
Description: Working structure fire in a commerical building. Heavy Fire upon arrival all units removed from the building due to structural damage. Valhalla Fast put to work requesting 2nd Fast. All M/A units released at approx 0930.

Tonight @ 21:00 the Plattekill Fire Department was dispatched for a PIAA on the NYS Thruway at mile marker 71.1 South Bound. Car 1, Car 3, Engine 1, Engine 2, Engine 4, 645 and 47-36 where all responding when @ 21:11 We were advised that Engine 4 was involved in a Motor Vehicle Accident, roll over with entrapment.
I have a been some sort of a chief officer for 13 years now, in the fire service for 21 years and never once did I instantly feel like I was going to vomit while responding to an incident...not until last night. I can tell you there are so many things that are going through your head after receiving an alarm involving your own...
What do I do? Whom do I call? How difficult is the extrication? What Happened? What did they hit? Who is in the truck? But the toughest question, the one that still rings in my head is "Are they alive?"
I will not speak of specifics. I will not release the details of this incident and I will let the authorities finish their investigation. But what I can tell you, 4 of the 5 firefighters have been released. Engine 4 is a total loss and the definition of brotherhood was re-taught to me through the actions of area fire departments and fire departments through out the state.
Cronomer Valley whom handled the incident...Thank you!!! Your professionalism went a long way tonight. You are our brothers and for you I am thankful. With out getting into every department that has reached out to us, because I can guarantee someone with be forgotten, whether it be at either at our stations or through phone calls, I had 132 missed calls, Thank you!!! Never have I had such an out pouring of support just for us.
I ask you, do you know what it is like to have to sit at the back of your vehicle trying to coordinate different responses while your Firefighters need YOUR help? Not something I EVER want to handle again.
For years we instill into our memberships heads...Seat belts, seat belts, SEAT BELTS... and on November 2nd 2013 @ 21:11, those seat belts saved their lives.
At St. Francis Hospital...the support continued. Fairview, Roosevelt, Arlington Fire Departments, with Engines, and Lisa Gardner, whom provided me with very informative updates, met the inbound ambulances to assist with ANYTHING we needed, ANYTHING. Tears is the word that best described how I was after I was notified of your support! I cant say thank you because thank you doesn't cover your actions. I owe you... period.
At 1:21 we called back in service, My membership continuing to want to help the community, knowing that what we seen tonight could have been completely different.
We will continue serving the community, we are Plattekill. We ARE Plattekill Strong.
I ask no one post NO Photos or post no details until the investigation is complete and I approve of such postings.
Thank you Everyone.
Chief Christopher Mancuso

Lets not forget in all of this "Stuff" the fantastic job the Brothers did that night under these extreme circumstances--. rescues were made-- civilians were saved--firefighters put their lives on the line for the citizens of Mt Vernon.
To any firefighter pulling up on a scene and being told that people were trapped in side--chills run up and down your spine--your training kicks into high gear and you go to work doing the best you can. Those firefighters and Officers that night were sworn to protect the citizens of Mount Vernon and they did it to the best of their ability. 2 men 3 men it didn't matter - people were trapped and they went to work, knowing full well that at any time it could be them in trouble...it didn't matter- they did it any way. For that the people of Mt Vernon should be proud of firefighters and Officers of FDMV.
Let politics take its course--it will all shake out--but FDMV did a yeoman's job that night.
Just my thoughts

Yes to sutphen

Rescue pumpers are an excellent choice for volunteer departments that are not staffed with technical rescue certified firefighters and whose main rescue function is automible crash patient extrications. Considering the great staffing difficulty that many V.F.D.'s have been experiencing for years (especially during weekdays when many members are unavailable due to work responsibilities as well as late night / early morning when members are sleeping before they go to work) it frequently is difficult for one department to staff an ambulance, a rescue truck and a pumper for response to a vehicle crash. The rescue pumper provides rescue equipment, vehicle stabilization equipment, equipment for initial patient care, firefighting capability and scene support devices (cones / flares, scene lighting, etc.) and eliminates the need to decide whether a poor turnout of personnel will require making a choice of bringing either a rescue truck or a pumper. As far as 'heavy rescues' go, many departments equip them with some truck company tools and the same equipment that a properly equipped rescue pumper carries and little more other than possibly a cascade system or a command post. True heavy rescues are equipped to provide rescue technician certified firefighters with the necessary equipment to assist them in dealing with high angle, confined space, trench, structure collapse, water rescues, etc.. And, in most cases the heavy rescue rig can't by itself carry everything that may be needed at a technical rescue incident. As a result, many fire departments have additional special op's support rigs to provide large amounts of shoring, carpentry tools, pavement breakers, air compressors, etc.. Unless a V.F.D. is able to make a commitment to maintain a sufficient number of certified rescue technicians and as a result needs to carry equipment to deal with the various tech. rescue regimens, it's very possible that a rescue pumper is the best choice.

I just pictured the guy from the "Queen, my dishes please" commerical, "He didn't get the joke"