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Actually that is a good idea if you have several members responding direct with units already on-scene... park out of the way and turn the lights off. The few cases where I go direct I typically am the first emergency responder on-scene.

We have a department policy on blue lights with an overview below: - Must live in town (we accept members from neighboring towns but require they staff at the stations). - Must have completed Driver/Operator certification and be checked off the drive our apparatus Code 3 (emergent). - Must have a good driving record. - Then requires Fire Chief approval. He also has to approve the type of light installed (we don't allow anything more than a dash light) and the member has to purchase the light. - Lights can be used to respond to the station for Code 3 (emergent) calls only and can only be used in the city limits. - The Fire Chief may revoke any blue light permit if there are complaints. For the record I think there are only three people on our department who have a blue light permit including myself. I rarely use my light for response but being an officer I occasionally end up going direct to the scene (or come across an incident) and will use it then for visibility on-scene. We are probably going to eventually phase out blue lights, more of a liability then benefit.

Los Angeles City is currently all tillers. They used various snorkel products (squirt, telesquirt, and snorkels in 50ft & 85ft) back in the 60's & 70's in addition to the tillers. Also LAFD occasionally demos other ladders and so far prefers their tillers. Los Angeles County is currently mostly tiller quints but have one or two front line rear mount quints. They have had an assortment of ladders types over the years with some coming from their acquisition of other fire districts.

Looking at their website - they have a station (Protection Engine Co. #1) with low overhead door clearance. My guess that the truck is speced to clear the door for that station. http://www.hastingsonhudsonfd.org/

The oval gauges actually are to display the position of the valve to let the operator know if it is open, closed, or where in between those positions. Most of the valves are hand crank operated not a lever.

This is a pump that allows higher pressure discharges for high rise buildings. There are three impellers in the pump to boost the pressure 3 times allowing operators to overcome the elevation loss when crews are operating on upper floors of buildings that do not have fire pumps (or working fire pumps) on the standpipe system. This requires special high pressure hose to hook from the pumper into the FDC on the building but by the time the water gets to the fire floor you can use standard pressure hose since crews will experience normal pressures due to the elevation pressure loss. Without the ability to pump the proper pressure the crews will not have adequate pressure or flow to fight the fire. Think of how many buildings in Manhattan that are over 30 stories tall... Most pumpers in the nation have either single or two stage pumps. Hope this helps and its not too complicated.

Not "old school"... Those are the new Federal Signal LED rotators, Vision SLR. A rotating mirror over a field of LEDs. http://www.fedsig.com/products/296/vision_slr_lightbar This seems to be the new standard lightbar for FDNY and NYPD on new bids. I cannot tell you why other than someone put it in the specs.

Electric strikers exist so you just press a switch to ring the bell. There of course is an additional cost and maintenance associated with it compared to a string run into the cab to tug on. I'm not sure if that is how this apparatus is set-up though.

One thing to consider is where you are placing it while loading/unloading. I tried to get a pod-style container for storage during a remodel this summer. No one would place it on my gravel driveway... almost all of the companies stated that the pod had to be on concrete. Most would not place it on asphalt either.

We have gone through a similar situation in our area. Our department purchased a "rescue-engine" ten years ago and when we specified an engine in 2008 we chose not to go the "rescue-engine" route. Our concerns with the 2002 design was the very high hose bed and ladder compartments. We find ourselves going to other trucks for hose and ladders because of this. Also this vehicle is a rear mount pump but all of the plumbing comes off the rear side compartments and takes up more space than I think it should. While the truck has lots of compartment space for rescue equipment included four coffins on top it suffers from easy access to some of the "bread & butter" structure firefighting equipment. While that stuff is accessed less often we find it hinders us on structure fires. This vehicle is the same overall dimensions as our other engines so handling and scene access are not an issue. Could some of the issues be resolved at the design stage? Possibly but we did not follow it up. I was not a member of the department when this vehicle was designed but I was around when it was delivered. In 2008 we designed a "engine" with a rear rescue tool compartment. On this truck we specified that everything be accessible from the ground or one step up to the tailboard/running board. Everyone finds this truck much easier to operate and get equipment off of. The rear rescue tool compartment has a cutter & spreader attached to a pump with 100-foot reels. We carry some cribbing and struts in other compartments and find this covers 99% of our extrication calls. Also we returned to the top-mount pump panel which our older engines have and the members prefer. I was a member of the design committee for this truck. Since we run a heavy rescue regardless we found that the "rescue-engine" design really didn't help us out any and made access to some equipment more difficult. I do not foresee us making a return to that design although I would admit that some of our issues could be resolved if the apparatus was designed differently. Regarding the pumper-tanker. One of our neighboring departments replaced a pumper and tanker with a combination unit. All that I will say is that they got a tandem axle pumper-tanker and it does not handle or maneuver like an engine. When I see it on scene the apparatus takes awhile to get it down the drives and into position. Be aware of impact of size of the apparatus on your response area and operator driving abilities. If you have any other questions let me know.

I believe the Minitor pagers are only VHF/UHF and not digital compatible. We use Harris P7200 radios but are issued Minitor V pagers which are VHF. Dispatch uses VHF to dispatch us (and most of the county departments) while everything else is on the digital system. Also a new thing we have is we use "I Am Responding" and the dispatch CAD is now set-up to text us with pages. I would not rely 100% on texts but it is a nice back-up since it is done by the CAD. Our dispatchers sometimes have issues getting complete pages out to us on the first try. We are the first in the county to have this and there are plans to roll this out to the other county departments.

We have two types of 4-Gas Meters in service, two MSA Solaris and six RKI GX-2001. The MSA take a couple minutes to go through their start-up procedure but we have not had to replace sensors very often. They do not give accurate readings when the O2 sensor goes out which was a concern and part of the reason we switched to the RKI. I do not remember what we paid for them. The RKI are what the department has been buying lately. They run $800 each and I seem to have to replace the O2 sensors every eight to twelve months at $100 a piece. We have a calibration station so we are able to do the repairs in house and I've started a detailed log to document how often I'm replacing sensors and how much money we are putting into these. These meters only have a 30 second start-up and do not reference the other readings off of the O2 sensor so I still get accurate CO, LEL, and H2S readings even when the O2 sensor is offline. We recalibrate ours whenever a sensor is replaced or once a year. The other city departments (streets/public works & water) use the RKI GX-2009 which we service and calibrate as needed (ie. when they are broken and come to us). I'm not sure that we will be changing meter brands anytime soon but hope this information helps.

From the Midwest... Our last three apparatus have been Marion (2000 Rescue, 2002 Rear Mount Pumper, 2008 Top Mount Pumper)

Seth, I, as well as most (if not all) of the membership, appreciate the time and effort you put into this. Thanks for keeping things running and upgrading the systems as needed.

You need to provide nozzle pressure at the nozzle which sounds like you have 100psi fog nozzles. Eductors have high friction loss due to their design so it is very possible to have pump pressures of 150-200psi to get your needed 100psi at the nozzle. Check the manuals for the eductors you use, they should have a required intake pressure on them. Our eductors are 150psi at the intake but depending on friction loss in the hose lay we can pump close to 200psi for a 100psi fog nozzle. We have Class A Foam systems on our last 2 engines (25-gallon tanks) and a Class B AR-AFFF Foam Trailer (550-gallons). The Class A system does help with extinguishing typical structure fire and does a good job on vehicles and dumpsters too. The foam trailer is for all of the tanker trucks and trains we have going thru town. With a pipeline terminal we get everything from diesel to gasoline to aviation fuel plus this is Iowa so there is quite a bit of ethanol as well. The Class A systems are injection via computer and the Class B trailer we use eductors. No SOG for use of the Class A, we train to use it on everything but we do have a SOG for the Class B since you have to calculate how much foam you need for the given fire size, duration, etc.

We use both the RJ3 Jack Stands and the Space-Saver Struts. They do a great job but are a little heavy, not a big deal though. We train on them regularly. Having the ability to stabilize and jack is invaluable. We also have the tripod adapter for the RJ3 stands so we can use it for rope rescues but its a beast to set-up compared to other offerings.

For what its worth Mack had a Model N that used the same cab as the Ford C (cabs were built by the Budd Company) and had a Mack drivetrain. You don't see many of them around as the model ended being replaced by the Mack MR/MC after a few years.

Marion does this as well. Our engine delivered last fall has DOT striping in the rub rails plus on the faces of all shelving. The pull-out trays have striping on the faces and sides plus the swing out tool board has striping along the perimeter on both sides. Also we have mostly outward swinging compartment doors and the inside of the doors are wrapped with the DOT striping. Nice feature that many manufacturers are starting to use. Doesn't cost much to purshase a roll of reflective tape and add the striping to existing apparatus too.

Nice looking and well thought out truck. I had the chance to look it over while at Marion in January during our prebuild conference for our latest Marion engine.

I would say that a great deal of the general public does not recognize the arrowstick as a traffic direction/control device - that's what the big DOT arrow boards are for. But they do add good visibility to the rear of the apparatus and all of our trucks with the exception of the ladder and pick-up have an arrowstick. We also do not overload our trucks with an excess of emergency lighting either as it just adds to the dazzle effect which confuses the general public plus it saves $$.

Glad to chip in to help out with the site costs.

Ok - I've looked through my books. Tampa was the third city to use the LARC. LTI was the manufacturer that did the outfitting on the vehicles in the early 80's with pump capacities of 2500 to 3000gpm. Books: The History of Fire Engines by John Calderone Fire Engines by Fred Crimson

Yes, there were a few of these used for fire & rescue. Miami had one as well as Milwaukee I believe. I would have to look through my books for further details but those are the two that I can think of.