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Update on the rollover from The Secret List:

I don't think anyone really knows the answer. I've seen conductor classes with one internal student, and others have had 6. Regardless, everyone has to go though the same hiring process.

I never said it was a good answer and I never said I agree with it.
Personally I think the practice is an accident and law suit waiting to happen. Furthermore, from the public's point of view, it makes a mockery of the fire service.

Tradition.

I never said it was a good answer and I never said I agree with it.
Personally I think the practice is an accident and law suit waiting to happen. Furthermore, from the public's point of view, it makes a mockery of the fire service.

I never said it was a good answer and I never said I agree with it.
Personally I think the practice is an accident and law suit waiting to happen. Furthermore, from the public's point of view, it makes a mockery of the fire service.

I never said it was a good answer and I never said I agree with it.
Personally I think the practice is an accident and law suit waiting to happen. Furthermore, from the public's point of view, it makes a mockery of the fire service.

While I'm sure the work their rest days, I doubt it is severe as reported. The dispatchers are governed by FRA regulations regarding rest requirements. Violation of those regulations carry heavy fines to both the carrier and the individual.
Less than accurate information is the norm when you interview the head honcho that doesn't know the whole situation.

E186 and E188 were both tandem axle engine with 2000 gallon booster and E188 did have a rear, manually operated dump valve retro'd after delivery. However, Tanker 16 did not replace E186 as a one for one replacement.
Engine 186 served multiple purposes but was a first due engine from Granite Springs Fire House. Amongst other things, it had a full compliment of engine company equiptment. It was no different than the other Oren's purchased in the same era (E180, E185) other than the fact it had a 2000 gal booster tank.
Tanker 16 was purchased to serve as a tanker to compliment the existing fleet. If memory serves me correctly it has a 3000 gallon tank, three dump valves capable of being operated from the cab and a 1500 gallon GPM pump. The higher capacity pump was installed so it could take the place of a pumper if needed. Other equiptment it was fitted when put in service was 2 SCBA's, indian tanks, portable pond and possiblly a portable pump. When put in service it was stationed at Lincolndale Fire House.
At the time the tanker delivered the intention was to (in time) put engines with 1000 gallon booster tanks in Granite Springs and Amawalk. About the same time E186 was remove from front line serve and E185 (with the smaller 1000 gallon booster tank) was put in Granite Springs. The reason for this was 1) the tanker as an additionally water source and 2) not long before there was a large water main installed, adding an addtional and reliable water source to the Granite Springs area.

E186 and E188 were both tandem axle engine with 2000 gallon booster and E188 did have a rear, manually operated dump valve retro'd after delivery. However, Tanker 16 did not replace E186 as a one for one replacement.
Engine 186 served multiple purposes but was a first due engine from Granite Springs Fire House. Amongst other things, it had a full compliment of engine company equiptment. It was no different than the other Oren's purchased in the same era (E180, E185) other than the fact it had a 2000 gal booster tank.
Tanker 16 was purchased to serve as a tanker to compliment the existing fleet. If memory serves me correctly it has a 3000 gallon tank, three dump valves capable of being operated from the cab and a 1500 gallon GPM pump. The higher capacity pump was installed so it could take the place of a pumper if needed. Other equiptment it was fitted when put in service was 2 SCBA's, indian tanks, portable pond and possiblly a portable pump. When put in service it was stationed at Lincolndale Fire House.
At the time the tanker delivered the intention was to (in time) put engines with 1000 gallon booster tanks in Granite Springs and Amawalk. About the same time E186 was remove from front line serve and E185 (with the smaller 1000 gallon booster tank) was put in Granite Springs. The reason for this was 1) the tanker as an additionally water source and 2) not long before there was a large water main installed, adding an addtional and reliable water source to the Granite Springs area.

E186 and E188 were both tandem axle engine with 2000 gallon booster and E188 did have a rear, manually operated dump valve retro'd after delivery. However, Tanker 16 did not replace E186 as a one for one replacement.
Engine 186 served multiple purposes but was a first due engine from Granite Springs Fire House. Amongst other things, it had a full compliment of engine company equiptment. It was no different than the other Oren's purchased in the same era (E180, E185) other than the fact it had a 2000 gal booster tank.
Tanker 16 was purchased to serve as a tanker to compliment the existing fleet. If memory serves me correctly it has a 3000 gallon tank, three dump valves capable of being operated from the cab and a 1500 gallon GPM pump. The higher capacity pump was installed so it could take the place of a pumper if needed. Other equiptment it was fitted when put in service was 2 SCBA's, indian tanks, portable pond and possiblly a portable pump. When put in service it was stationed at Lincolndale Fire House.
At the time the tanker delivered the intention was to (in time) put engines with 1000 gallon booster tanks in Granite Springs and Amawalk. About the same time E186 was remove from front line serve and E185 (with the smaller 1000 gallon booster tank) was put in Granite Springs. The reason for this was 1) the tanker as an additionally water source and 2) not long before there was a large water main installed, adding an addtional and reliable water source to the Granite Springs area.

I thought I did but let's put it into a different context:
If you filled up your personal vehicle at the districts pumps and traveled to far away places for personal reasons would that be legal? What is the difference if you use the same gasoline but now in a district vehicle where as now you are not paying any vehicle expenses (insurance, registration, wear and tear, etc) for personal reasons?
Granted I am not a lawyer but it sounds questionable when tax payer money is used for personal reasons.
Agreed. Every year taxes go up and every year something like this raises more eye brows.
Over the last 5+ years, many government agencies (police, highway, etc) have severely limited take home vehicle use even when they are required to respond during off hours. While I am not suggesting that chief's vehicles be stripped away, their non firematic use should be under scrutiny.
Granted, this vehicle in question is not a chiefs vehicle as per the Jerrico FD's web site the chief designators are 9401, 9402 and 9403. Not 9413 as is pictured. The public doesn't know the difference and realistically, there is no difference.

I thought I did but let's put it into a different context:
If you filled up your personal vehicle at the districts pumps and traveled to far away places for personal reasons would that be legal? What is the difference if you use the same gasoline but now in a district vehicle where as now you are not paying any vehicle expenses (insurance, registration, wear and tear, etc) for personal reasons?
Granted I am not a lawyer but it sounds questionable when tax payer money is used for personal reasons.
Agreed. Every year taxes go up and every year something like this raises more eye brows.
Over the last 5+ years, many government agencies (police, highway, etc) have severely limited take home vehicle use even when they are required to respond during off hours. While I am not suggesting that chief's vehicles be stripped away, their non firematic use should be under scrutiny.
Granted, this vehicle in question is not a chiefs vehicle as per the Jerrico FD's web site the chief designators are 9401, 9402 and 9403. Not 9413 as is pictured. The public doesn't know the difference and realistically, there is no difference.

12 years later gone but will never be forgotten. We still got your back
We remember the 343 Firefighters in NYC that died that day but we should not forget all the Police officers, EMT's and victims on the planes, in the Towers or the Pentagon and especially those who are suffering from or passed away from cancer because they dug the rubble at the site.
Or the K-9's that helped that got sick

A moment of silence is generally a better way to show your respect and pray. Sirens are for parades.

I don't know what goes on in Canada but I can give a little insight what goes on around here (specifically with Metro North).
Way back when I took train emergency class taught by retired Metro North Assistant Chief Donald (Spanky) McLennan (sp?), as emergency responders we were in no way instructed what to do in order to properly secure a train Initially it's the train conductor in charge until an operations manager arrives.
As a conductor I was taught how to secure the equipment. Whether it's a parking brake on an M7 or Genesis locomotive or a hand brake on an M3, BL20, coach, freight car, etc. The steeper the grade the more hand brakes that have to be applied. We are not trained to fight fires other than small fires with the BC fire extinguishers on the trains (don't ask, I never got the answer).
If there's any considerable fire were told to evacuate the car or cars affected and if necessary the train. If it came to evacuating the train then we have to take tracks out of service, third rail de-energized, etc.
In the land of freight trains the conductor will have a manifest of the cargo in each rail car. They conductor and engineer are not taught how to fight a fire, that's the fire departments job. Cars containing hazardous material will have placards. The number of cars in the consist will dictate how many hand brakes need to be applied to secure it.
That sounds like he's passing the buck. If the locomotive was shut down then there may not be an adequate supply of air to keep the service brake applied in the event of an air leak. if the hand brake is not applied then it could roll. That would fall on the negligence of the company.

The 6:22 PM train from GCT to Croton Harmon is usually M3 equipment.

Let me guess, on 46th between Fifth and Madison. That was my favorite one in the area before the one in the Madison Ave passage adjacent to Grand Central Terminal opened up.

Let me guess, on 46th between Fifth and Madison. That was my favorite one in the area before the one in the Madison Ave passage adjacent to Grand Central Terminal opened up.

Those that are concerned about this beat to death issue, write the department or district that owns the vehicle. Ranting about it on this site is not going to solve anything.
This issue comes up on this site every so often and gets locked. Time goes by and it comes up again.

The day's not over. It should be a little later the zombies come out and play.

Just sell it to Metro North. Even in it's current condition it will likely run better than the BL20's on a good day.

Just sell it to Metro North. Even in it's current condition it will likely run better than the BL20's on a good day.

Don't laugh, years ago when the "ambulances" were "rescues", there were SCBAs on each of them.

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There have been several gas related explosions lately. i would like to take this moment to talk about some basic safety. For you, your families, friends, neighbors,etc.
Keep in mind that propane is heavier than air and will tend to settle in low areas, basements, crawl spaces, along floors, etc.
Natural gas is lighter than air and will collect along ceilings, in attics, etc.
Both will collect in areas with little to no ventilation,
IF YOU SMELL GAS:
Leave the building without turning any lights on or off.
Do not use the phone in the affected structure.
If it is safe to do so, turn of the gas supply at the source For natural gas, the meter. For propane, turn off the tank.
Call 911 AND your gas supplier.
DO NOT attempt to make repairs yourself.
Call a QUALIFIED technician.
I am always amazed at some of the "homeowner" repairs and connections. How they don't blow themselves up is beyond me.
Just because your buddy once helped a plumber put in a sink, doesn't mean he is qualified to connect your water heater. And just because your neighbor is a plumber, does not mean he is qualified to do gas plumbing and repair.