RescueKujo

I'll predict September 15th, 2007 2:47 p.m.

Upon further review and calculations from the GAO and Congressional Budget Office, I'm revising me estimate to September 9th at 1:35 p.m.

Kinda gives new meaning to the phrase "B-Job" doesn't it?

There's another fire term that has a double entendre, but the better part of valor keeps me from posting it...

Why is this not in the black eye section?

Do we need a new forum called "News that shines unfavorably on Public Safety?"

Hiya Kujo - thanks for the reminder. Things can change in an instant so be prepared always. Like I said I am a total newcomer and aside from a couple of civvie incidents have no experience at all. I hope to learn from you lot!

And most of the time I can be a bit sarcastic. I know, I know, lowest form of wit and all that but if I offend anybody I really am sorry. You guys all seem to post so seriously I'm thinking I don't fit in here.

Baby,

Don't worry about the sarcasm. That and the gallows humor are how most of us get by. Everyone gets cynical after a period of time in this profession after dealing with the "noble citizens" that we tend to see.

Way to go guys! Congratulations!

Appreciate the facts you posted, thanks. My understanding is that its a pretty archaic weapon that was originally utilized back in WW1. The thing that worried me, is that its heavier than air. So, if it was on an upper floor it could have gotten a number of people sick if it made its way to lower parts of the building. The CDC website has some useful information about Phosgene:

http://www.bt.cdc.gov/agent/phosgene/basics/facts.asp

Rescue,

I also appreciate it. It's been over 20 years since I dealt with this stuff, and while the basics are still in the memory, a lot of it has left the building.

This gentleman made some very good points. But beyond health and safety issues, the big thing also needs to be education. How many people entering the fire service know the difference in contruction types? I know it's anecdoctal, but my supervisor's husband in a 28 year firefighter. He was telling us about a fire where one of the newer firefighters (he didn't say his experience level) was told not to stand in a certain location. When he continued to stand there, he was grabbed and pulled out of there. As this was happening, the roof came down right where he had been standing. he turned to Warren and asked how he knew. You need to have an education to do this job.

Babyheart,

You can be on the most serene scene and have it go sideways in a heartbeat. As was said before, expect the unexpected. It is ultimately up to you to watch out for yourself. Now that I'm in dispatch, I can't tell you how many times I've been asked by the crews why I didn't tell them to standback/stage. There are certain things that are an absolute standback/stage for Sheriff or PD, but after a while the crews should have enough street sense to know when to do that.

Mr. Kerry..."global test"....who...what? Oh that's right he's the botox guy that lost.

Isn't he Jane Fonda's BFF???

Thoughts and prayers to Firefighter Cahill's family and fellow Boston Firefighters. May God watch over them during this tragic time.

Thoughts and prayers to Firefighter Payne's family and fellow Boston Firefighters. May God watch over them during this tragic time.

Thoughts and prayers for the Fallen, the injured and the rest of the Boston Fire Department

It doesn't really say other than a safe metal box that was sealed what their storage containment was. Isn't that a bit scary? At least our military uses double doors and thick walled bunkers to store those kinds of weapons.

Always remember. May God be watching down on their families and friends.

Rmember said it best, but here's a few pointers...

1) use the DOT handbook. Look at the placard, make sure you know what you have. If you see orange with a 1.1 on it, you better be backing up. If it's on fire, the quicker the better.

2) Call your local Bomb Squad. They will know what to do.

Sounds like there still are 2, HR35 and HR127. Maybe they re-designated the numbers or something.

Oswego,

My comment was referencing the fire stations. FS 36 and FS 127 are on the same street seperated by about 2 miles in Carson. Sorry for the confusion.

Good idea, moose. I'll post mine tonight.

Moose,

As a Labor and Delivery nurse told me long ago, women have been birthing babies without doctors, nurses, paramedics or EMTs for millinneums. We are there to assist and help if anything goes wrong. There is no sense is getting worked up about it, you can't stop it. I've found that the people who act like that doctor are insecure in their own skills.

Another Angel who devoted their life to the service of others. Thoughts and prayers to the Coyne and Natrella families. May God bless and watch over them during this time.

that looks huge! Seth, are they parking it in back, cause 36's is just like 127's and I don't think there's much room there. When I was at the station in July it looked like the bays were full.

Duane

wasn't there a company that tried to sell those here in the states during the 90's??

he just likes cooking italian food from scratch in his office. C'mon, give the guy a break.

Q) how many emt's does it take to screw in a light bulb?

A: None, we let paramedics do it

Q: What is the most enjoyable sound in the world???

Thoughts and prayers to Officer Casey's family and fellow officers.

Fire Status

Acres Burned: 240,207 acres

Fireline to Build: 2 miles

Date Started: July 4, 2007 at 10:53 am

Percent Contained: 95 percent

Expected Containment: September 4, 2007

Injuries: 42

Structures Threatened: 32

Structures Destroyed: 1 outbuilding

Cost to date: $107 million dollars

The fire is significantly slowing. Containment estimate has been moved up. This will end up being the 2nd largest fire in California history.