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Yes I am sure of the photo's accuracy. There were two Sutphen's. In John Calderone's 1990 edition of "A New York City Guide to Fire Apparatus" there are two different Sutphens listed, both with 1250GPM Pumps, and 100ft. Towers. The 1980 was delivered in July and given shop # ST8001D, at the time this book was published that unit was operating as a spare, and it had been numbered for Ladder 14. The 1981 Sutphen Tower was deliever in December of 1981 and given shop # ST8101D and it was in service with Ladder Company 119. Additionlly I have found Mike Martinelli, who runs FDNYtrucks.com to be very, very accurate.

Someone had asked about the FDNY Sutphen Towers.... there were two, one a 1981, which was already posted on page one. THat unit is now in Rolla Mo. The other Sutphen was purchased in 1980...... it is now in service in Lock Haven PA. Check it out. http://www.fdnytrucks.com/files/html/other...ock%20Haven.htm

I think that QA 1 belonged to the Somers FD. It was a 1987 Ford F-450 chassis with Reading utility bodywork. It is now Utility 5. It had a skid unit with a dry chem. unit and I believe carried the Jaws and other rescue and first response gear. It was SFD's "Highway" response unit. I have a slide of this unit somewhere I will try to find it and post it this week.

http://www.fdnytrucks.com/files/html/bronx/e70.htm I think this unit was a demo unit, until it was sent to FDNY.

Isn't the current rescue unit Engine 183..... which is a 1996 or 1997 Freightliner Pierce rescue pumper?

I think Engine 219 is a Duplex Chassis, with bodywork by Young. I also believe that their Brockway Tanker has since been replaced...... I saw it for sale in a trade paper some time ago.

What design are they looking at...... custom cab? walk thru body, walk around body? This is exciting news.

A Second Blood Drive is taking place today at the Katonah Fire Department, 65 Bedford Road, Katonah NY. Anyone who is interested in donating is welcome. The drive is scheduled to run from 2:30PM until about 7:30PM. Hope to see some of you there, and thank you for your help.

I am sad to hear that Centerport is having trouble getting the money they need for expansion of their FD....... but their actions are the absolute wrong way to go about voicing their disapproval..... I am sure it must be very, very frustrating, but there are more positive ways to get what they want. Just my opinion.

Actually, Katonah's 1970 International/Gowans Knight Mini Attack was set up to be the first due fire engine at all of our calls........ it did that for 14 years........ As for Mini-Attacks today, they still can serve a purpose..... we still use our Mini-Attack for a variety of roles....second due to all MVA/PIAA's, Brush Fires, Road closings, but it also can still be used as a first line piece in adverse weather because it has 4WD..... great in the snow and in flood conditions, plus it can serve as a small, get in tight places unit in all parts of our district.... I don't think using a mini attack as a first line piece to a structural call is the wisest thing in todays day and age, even if it has a four door cab. When you never know how far out help is, how can you justify sending a vehical with maybe your only driver, and only a 200-750 gpm pump and 200 - 300 gallons of water?????? It just is not practicle or safe for property owners or especially for firefighters.

Mount Vernon FD 1980 Mack Aerialscope from West Harrison.....in service 1970's Seagrave Tiller from FDNY.....out of service Yonkers FD 1955 Mack B 750GPM Pumper from Hastings 1950's ALF Tiller Aerial Retractored by Continental....both out of service..... New Rochelle FD 1978 Seagrave 100ft. RMA from FDNY.....out of service Pelham FD 1979 Mack CF Pumper from FDNY.....out of service White Plains FD..... 1948/70 ALF Tiller from Dobbs Ferry.... Out of service Hartsdale FD 194X ALF 100ft. Midship Aerial from WHFD.....out of service 1978 Mack CF Pumper from Ardsley....out of service Scarsdale 1949 Seagrave Service Aerial from Mamaroneck....OOS 196X ALF Aerochief Snorkle......OOS Fairview FD 1975 Mack CF Aerialscope from Harrisburg/Larcmont....OOS Rye Brook FD 1971 Seagrave PB Pumper from NewHyde Park....OOS 1978 Maxim F Pumper from Valhalla.... OOS Mamaroneck (Town of) 194X Chevy Pumper from US Military....OOS Banksville FD 192X ALF Pumper....OOS 192X Seagrave Pumper....OOS 1976 Maxim F 85ft. Service Aerial from Glenville CT.... In Service Pocantico Hills FD 196X Mack Tanker from Croton FD.....OOS 1978/8X White Amthor Tanker from Armonk.....OOS Mohegan FD 1939 Diamond T Rescue from Croton......OOS Mount Kisco FD 198X Seagrave HB 100ft. RMA from Cleveland.....In service Armonk FD 1920 Locomobile from BHFD.......OOS 1978 White Chassis obtained from Con-Ed.....OOS Buchanan FD The Chassis for both of Buchanans first two fire engines were reused...... Mount Kisco Independents...... 1911 Locomobile from Irvington......OOS Goldens Bridge, Vista, and South Salem FD's The chassis for all of their original tankers were reused from old oil trucks........... I'm sure there are a few I have missed..... does this help?

Valhalla's 1971 Maxim F 100ft. Midship aerial finds new home in Tully NY.... where Saulsbury Fire Apparatus are built. Check it out here..... http://www.cnyfiretrucks.com/

1977 or 1978

Ham night is a fun chance to get out and mingle with BHFD people and members of neighboring departments, as well as members of the Bedford Hills community..... they raffle of hams.... there is some food served, hot dogs (I think, but I can't remember) It's a good time and worth checking out.... hey you could end up winning a ham for Easter....... besides the BHFD guys are a good bunch and it's a fun way to support them.

Hey all! Having some trouble finding info on retired fire appartus from these three fire departments. I am hopeful that some of you out there can help to fill in the gaps..... also check the Protection from the Past Page at emtbravo.com and let me know if there are any mistakes or items missing. I am greatful for any help I can get on these departments. Here is what I have so far. Hawthorne 1949 Seagrave Pumper (Open Cab) 195X Maxim Quad (Open Cab, Retired 1983) 1968 Oren Custom Pumper (Retired 1996?) 1973 Mack CF Pumper (Retired 1996?) 196X Dodge Van (Was Rescue Unit) There may have been a 1960's era GMC Brush Truck prior to the current mini-attack. (Nothing Before these years!!!!!) West Harrison 1926 Mack Pumper 1950 ALF 700Srs. Quad (Open Cab. Retired 1980) 1957 WLF Pumper (Open Cab. Retired 199X) 1973 Seagrave PB Pumper (Retired 200X) (Nothing else) North White Plains 1939 Ward LaFrance Patrol Truck (Department Antique) 195X ALF 700Srs. Pumper (Retired 1977?) 196X Mack C Pumper (Retired 1981?) (Nothing else) The Goal is to eventually be able to list all retired motorized apparatus that has served Westchester FD's.

Best Breakfast.... Pick a Donkin Dounuts or better yet, a McDonalds (I prefer breakfast on the go....lol) Best Lunch spot: Carmine's Deli in Elmsford (Great food and great people) Best Pizza: Muscoot in Somers at Rt100 & 35 (Awesome thin crust!) Best Burger: The Blazer in Purdys (AWESOME Chili too!) Best Wings: The Candlelight in Greenville on Central Ave. (Beware of Chernoble!!!!!!!) Best Steak: Ruths Chris Steak House (Prepair to have the best meal of your life.... but also be prepaired to pay like it was the best meal of your life....SOOOOOO Expensive!!! ](*,) Best Dinner: Try PF Chang's in White Plains (Very good Chinese) Guadalhara for Mexican in Archville on Rt. 9 The Bayou in Fleetwood (Cajan food. Great Ribs!)

Katonah Fire Department Parade Date: June 9 Weds. Step off time: 7:00PM Sharp Best place to take pictures: Valley Road Carnival Follows Parade

I have sort of known about this for a bit and have kept quiet.... to help build some anticpation (lol)... but I want to say, I think that this is truly AWESOME! Great job FFD of finding this beauty and working to bring her home where she belongs! I love to see fire departments taking steps to preserve part of their heritage! As for the Chrome Ball..... this is kind of interesting. The ball is actually an air pressure chamber that is typically 1/2 full of air and 1/2 full of water when the truck is pumping. It basically works to create a smoother pumping motion and create a less choppy discharge.... in essense it prevents the hoses hooked up to the discharges from thrashing about...... this was important in the days of old canvas jacketed hose. This pressure chamber was really quite common in the old days, in fact it was a standard feature on piston pumps.... the precursor to modern centrifical pumps of today. Aherns Fox pumpers with the front mounted pumps where piston pumps the smaller red ball further back on the top of the pump is actually a piston. What made the Ahrens Fox's air pressure chamber unique was really it's size and placement. Additionally if you were to look at an old steam pumper you would notice between the seat and the stack a tear drop looking chrome plates ball......that too would be the air chamber. I hope I got all of that right... and I hope that makes sense, as well as answering your question.

Once a week for a pager test, perhaps also used as a time to remind members of a meeting or a training is probably legitament. But I agree with calling 60 Control for permission first.

Here Here!!!! =D> Well put EMTbravo, well put! I think that is totally unfair for us to bash Albany..... has anybody been to Albany??? Know what their situation is? What is to say they aren't deservant of every penny they recieved? While we may be more proned to incidents (terrorism in WC) news flash..... things happen elsewhere too. Unhappy you didn't get what you wanted....reconsider what it was you asked for.....who wrote your grant? Maybe next time consult with a professional grant writer if what you asked for is not so absurd and you were not a receipiant. Also, did you get a grant last year??? We can't all get everything we want all of the time........

Firehouse.com annonced today that the final round of fireact grants for this year has been released. $750,000,000 was given to fire departments across the US for various projects. Congrats to all of Westchester's recipients. Good luck next year to all who apply!

Hey all. I am away from my desk with all of my goodies about this stuff. As soon as I get back from CA. I will get you a definate answer to your definition request.

This article ran on the front page of the Journal News this morning. I thought that it might be of interest to you all. I enjoy reading about the resurgence of community involvement, especially when it relates to the fire service. Check it out. http://www.thejournalnews.com/newsroom/021...pelfighter.html

This artilce was actually about the Pelham Fire Department. From what I understand, Pelham Manor still has an active volunteer contingent too. I used to get the two departments confused myself.

Sadly the cost of living is going to effect the fire service in Westchester County. It is sad that many of us, myself included will some day leave this area to findlocations that are more affordable. But I would us all not out new members because of their ecconomic status.... in many communities, people of white collar rank are joining the fire service. And while not every community is going to yield the same results as far as recruiting and retaining from this group.... there are departments out there who are having success with this population. Remember that people from all walks of life will be interested in serving their communities...... don't be too hasty and rule them out..... if you haven't tried to recruit them, you can't really know that they are not interested. But on the other hand I share your concern. It is true that life's demands are often a factor that will negatively effect the fire service. I think we all can attest to that.