Scottyk107

Well said.

Wow, good to know Captain. When you say designed limit do you mean weight or intended use? Always wondered if the way FDNY and other departments used their aerials to take windows voids any warranty or like you stated decertified the ladder. I am with you and would have a very hard time doing this in a training situation, unless there is some kind of fall protection or something we cannot determine from the photo. Do any departments still do pompier ladder training? I think much could be said the same about the "confidence building" that was done with these ladders. Im sure a few of the senior members on this board have at some point been on one as a requirement for the academy. Unfortunately I doubt they were in an era where saying no was an option.

Depends, is your family member the one on the other side? I agree we shouldn't put ourselves in this kind of danger during training but this is another tool in the toolbox when it hits the fan. While not directly related to this picture or any posts I think the shift in the order of life safety in the fire service over the past few years is disheartening.The risk benefit analysis is something we should always be using but shouldn't use it as a crutch to not do our jobs. Lt. Ray McCormack said it best several years ago in his FDIC keynote speech, "A fire department that writes off civilians faster than an express line of 6 reasons or less is not progressive, it's dangerous, because it's run by fear. Fear does not save lives, it endangers them." If you haven't heard the speech give it a listen, really sums it up. Here is a great read just posted yesterday http://www.backstepfirefighter.com/2014/08/20/women-and-children-first-by-dave-leblanc/ I am sure I will take a beating for this but again I am not promoting any unsafe acts or "John Wayne time", just think we need to take a step back and see what our "progression" looks like from the eyes of the public.

Not my photo but you get the idea

I agree, would like to see a belay from a high point. From what I ascertained from comments on people that were there, the roof ladder is tied off to the aerial. No mention on what the other side was going to, what and how far is anything below, if there are any passive fall protection. Would definitely be interested in knowing the ladders, both aerial and roof, capabilities used in this manner. Having witnessed ground ladder testing this is the same way that they are set up with a horizontal load placed in the center. Its actually pretty violent to watch and I'm not sure I gain or lose confidence every time that I watch the annual inspections.

This is one out of Ft. Lauderdale in the 80's.

Have seen this floating around on various social media sites today as well. From what I can gather the picture is as stated from a Louisville, KY probie class and is called the ladder bridge. It sounds like it is also practiced in Detroit as well. Some photos of rescues from Detroit, FDNY, and South Florida have also surfaced with some variation of a ladder, anywhere from a 50 foot extension to a short roof ladder, added to the aerial in some variation for extra reach.

Some good depts in FL, but as stated earlier you have to be certified before you can apply. Even then its around 100 applicants for every open position usually. Thousands of unemployed certified firefighters in the state. The academies are for profit so are pumping out classes and therefore applicant competition. Salary and benefits vary from city to city, county to county, most are still pension but we will see how long that lasts.

Thanks X4093k. Its a 2012 Quantum, with a 70 gallon CAFS system run off the cascade system.

Tiller went in service as of Friday. I have a few pictures of it but haven't figured out how to post them ha.

Capitol improvement funds are from the city itself usually by the way of taxes

I don't think any of the new equipment is going to 3rd street. According to the cities press release attached to this thread one engine is going to Station 2 as E-5 with the new ladder (L-3), and the other is going to HQ as E-6. Could be wrong, Jodi or someone would know better.

I believe the Rescue goes O.O.S. most of the time to staff the 3rd truck to keep mutual aid down. Im sure Jodi or someone can clarify. MVPD has had ESU for a long time now. Mostly the f350's but I think they have a large heavy rescue style walk around too.

Just noticed the Florida Salutes Firefighters "Eng60" License plate on E-60.

With the 3rd truck in service I think it has been changed up a bit staffing wise.