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Read more: http://www.odmp.org/officer/21585-police-officer-jennifer-lynn-sebena#ixzz2FzxJq3FZ

What's going on these days? This tragedy and a WI police officer found shot and killed near a firehouse in Wisconsin early this morning. LET'S BE CAREFUL OUT THERE PEOPLE! That's not just a TV quote anymore!

Hopefully he (or she) "earned their way up the ranks" to get more than a truck! If the truck is the motivation we are all well and thoroughly screwed!

As was already noted by Jack, there are many other threads on this topic (the search feature will lead you to them). If, after reviewing the prior exhaustive (and exhausting) discussions, you have something new and productive to add, then return and post it. If this thread just becomes a repeat of the prior discussions and emotional tirades on both sides of the issue, the thread will be closed.

Wasn't Empress around prior to 1985?

Not speaking to the issue of bringing our soldiers home (I'm 100% with you on that) but rather the thought about putting them in schools in the US... Posse Comitatus would preclude that as an option. Regarding the cost... http://www.examiner.com/article/how-much-would-it-cost-to-put-a-cop-every-school-across-america An interesting article on the subject.

And in those eight years how many miles are put on them? How old are the Yonkers trucks being replaced?

Age is a trivial consideration. Many police departments (like the county) replace post cars every year because of high mileage. Given the call volume in Yonkers and wear and tear on the vehicles it is not that surprising that they're being replaced. The current trucks can then be used for other purposes or auctioned while they still have some value.

Sure, when I was there all they had were Dodge Chargers. This is a sharp looking vehicle. Best of luck with it!!!

Points taken, I was just throwing it out there. Good luck!

No need for that kind of reaction. We can agree to disagree and still have a discussion about it. I'm just not prepared to blame video games or poor taste in clothes on what happened yesterday.

How many atrocities in our history have been carried out in the name of religion? Not being religious or playing violent video games isn't what caused this massacre. I'm reasonably confident that warning signs may have been missed but they weren't the "goth lifestyle" or choice of video games. With regard to liberal "anything goes" lifestyles as compared with some others, I'll still pick ours hands down any day of the week. When's the last time someone was stoned to death for adultery in the US?

Can't you ask the applicant if he has been convicted of a crime or serious traffic offense on the application? If he/she lies in the application or interview, that could be grounds for declining to hire/accept them too. Seems to me people are looking for reasons NOT to do things instead of reasons TO do them. People are the most important commodity of any organization and you have to make sure you get the right ones!

If they didn't plan and train for that contingency, the opportunity may have eluded them. Remember, we're only as good as our training! This does bring up the issue of how comprehensive emergency planning is. Col. Grossman does an excellent job of addressing these issues. Too bad more people don't heed his advice.

Locked doors may slow someone down or limit their access to large numbers of people. Instead of having everyone running around in the halls creating a (excuse the term) shooting gallery environment, the locked doors and limited numbers in each room reduce the exposure of innocent people and make it easier for the police to secure the environment too. I wouldn't call that cowering in the corner. Unarmed, untrained civilians should seek shelter during something like this. What else would you have them do? In this case, the suspect seems to have been targeting a very specific person and unfortunately the kids that were with her. Overall, I think lockdowns work but this guy was intent on completing his mission so the locked door didn't stop him. Unfortunately.

It COULD BE considered discrimination.... Always and never are both rarely applicable conditions. I would get an opinion from the department/company/district attorney rather than rely on the instructors at the fire academy (or police academy) in matters such as this. In reviewing the above, the following was also found (Article 23-A NYS Corrections Law): So, you could refuse to allow someone to join if the above conditions exist. This leads me to other questions on the topic... Do you hire everyone who applies for membership? Do you ask for and interview references? Do you review employment/educational history to make sure the person is a good candidate for membership/employment? A criminal history is only one reason to disqualify someone for membership.

How hard is it to get into a locked room if you really want too? He either kicked in the door, shot the lock mechanism until it failed, or broke a window to gain access I suppose.

From the same article about the incidents in China... Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/man-attacks-22-kids-knife-china-school-article-1.1220230#ixzz2F87dFd6k The simple fact is you can kill multiple people with a knife if that is your intent. If this lunatic in CT had driven his car onto the playground at recess and run over multiple people would you be calling for a ban on cars next? We simply don't know how many times guns save the lives of innocent people but I'm reminded of one story about a year ago where a single mom defended herself and her baby by shooting and killing an intruder who broke into her home. There's probably a thread on that story too since the 911 tapes were broadcast on the news and the story got a lot of attention at the time. Banning LEGAL guns won't stop gun related violence.

Says who? Private employers, and most VFD's would fall under this category, can and do perform background checks on their employees to include criminal history and other important reviews. Seems to me the policy of the department is what rules here.

I couldn't agree with you more but before you attack the issue with policy have you tried revising the driver training and/or providing some supervision to those revving up the Q at 3 AM? While the notion of disciplinary action is often lost in the volunteer sector, it can still work. Tell a driver and/or officer that they're going to lose their driving privileges for a month for such infractions (or something to that effect).

At last, some GOOD news today.... Nice job Trooper/RN!

I doubt this study is based on anything other than a statistical analysis. They discuss reviewing UCR data and budgetary information but there is no mention of any type of personal assessment.

But the mutual aid resources aren't operating in a vacuum, unless they're responding all alone to an incident in another jurisdiction. The IC, with the local expertise, should direct the incoming companies and give them what they need to know. Wouldn't it be helpful if everyone knew the buildings and their fire protection systems in their own jurisdictions before we worry about the high rises in three of the cities in the county (that are built to much more stringent codes than 90% of the buildings in the county)?

I'm not sure of your background or experience but you are treading on very thin ice with the volunteer/career comments. Please DO NOT start a career vs. volunteer debate; see the forum guidelines for an explanation on why we won't tolerate that. As for your question... I don't give a damn if the crew coming to help my local FD when my house is on fire is career or volunteer SO LONG AS they're properly trained and equipped to do the job and have the appropriate numbers of personnel. If it's a career truck with one FF or a volunteer truck with five guys but only one "qualified" FF, you can keep 'em. What is the benefit of "local knowledge" when you have fire blowing out the windows in an ordinary construction building? The engine guys know how to stretch hose no matter what street they're on and the ladder guys know how to ventilate the building regardless of its address? Getting there may be a momentary issue but with GPS, computers, smart-phones, maps and, oh yeah, the radio if all else fails, they're going to get there.

It's not under ICS that the coordinator is a "resource officer" as that title doesn't exist in modern ICS. It's the way we apply the concept of a "deputy coordinator" locally that reduces them to an extension of 60-control instead of a command or general staff position. Simply moving to a nearest unit type of mutual aid would reduce the biases and stop some of the folly that is our mutual aid. But of course that presupposes that all resources are standard and they're definitely not. Oh well!