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Guarantee? Where do we get those in this line of work? As for the information being false and someone dying - if the call is for a water leak or a lockout and that happens it's not going to be the FD's fault. It has been proven time and time again that you don't need someone responding lights and siren to every call especially the kinds of calls being discussed in this article (water leaks, lock-outs, etc.). Clinging to the notion that everything we go to is an emergency is flawed and is eventually going to get someone hurt.

Thanks for the info. Do you know who's dogs were involved?

I bring this up because there are different techniques employed by dogs and only bloodhounds actually follow the individual scent of a person and not other means to track such as crushed cover, etc. Given the wind and rain I'm not surprised that a patrol dog (if it was the MTA K-9) didn't have a lot of success. For that matter, given the weather I'm not even sure a bloodhound would be successful. Is the special operations unit referenced the County Technical Rescue Team? Was it elements of that team who were used for the search? Do they have search dogs on that team?

Outside of some Portugese Water Dogs being trained as lifeguards, what dogs are used for "rescue" and not the "search" part of "search and rescue".

What kind of "search dogs" were they? The article references not putting your faith in dogs but there are a lot of variables to this kind of search with K-9 assets.

A new EC-145 is in the ballpark of 4-5 million dollars. Depending on the parent company, it could be a part of a regular replacement program (not unlike the way they replace fire apparatus).

Paranoid? Have we already forgotten the lessons learned after 9/11? We need to be active participants in our security. The passive nature of our security in the past failed us and we can't allow complacency or apathy to drive it in the future.

The threads about lights and emergency vehicle operations got me thinking and while looking online for something else I came across an article by Doug Wolfberg that is just as timely now as when it was published in 1996. http://www.emergency...nliability1.htm Some interesting excerpts from the article: The article also lists some interesting recommendations that people should look at for an honest self-assessment. School's Open - Drive Carefully.

A little perspective here guys. Look at the picture on the poster, it's supposed to make you think suspicious so when you see something like it you say something. If there's a guy standing at the airport fence with his kid taking pictures of mommy's airplane taking off, it's a vastly different perspective. Wear all black with your hood pulled up over your head and you probably will get more attention. Why is that such a bad thing? Nobody is saying you can't take photos at an airport - unless it is a security area - but you also shouldn't expect to be ignored while doing so. They're not stereotyping photographers, they're trying to highlight suspicious behavior. In this day and age, as we've already discussed here ad nauseum, there is much greater concern over this subject because we've documented numerous instances of potential terrorists conducting surveillance and counter-surveillance here and abroad. We can't just ignore photographers anymore.

Don't be surprised if you don't get an overwhelming response to this question. I don't think many of us are going to be inclined to get into specifics of security training at the airport. Suffice it to say that, yes, cops at the airport receive substantial specialized training relating to the airport environment.

Some of us do!

I'm pretty sure that LifeNet uses Wulfsberg Radios. They're programmable and can have frequencies and PL/DPL changed as necessary. I'll have to find out about the state police.

Thought the same thing...

Current FD organization (from the City of Beacon website):

"Cheated" on an open book test? Slow news day?

There is no context in the video or the post here to explain the background so we don't know if there was probable cause or not. With regard to safety checks, they can be conducted by any lawful authority on any navigable waterway so the whole constitutional issue is moot. There have been several instances during the past few years when the US Coast Guard has collaborated with local law enforcement to conduct frequent vessel boardings on the Hudson and that's what started these "protests". Having responded to one fatal boating accident on the Hudson that was 100% preventable, I am glad they're doing these checks and the "outcry" against them is fundamentally flawed. Maybe the original poster would like to provide some context or factual info about the YouTube video he references so we know what the point is.

Many do - Nassau, NYC, US Park Police for example. I think Suffolk has them on some of their ships but I'm not 100% sure. LAPD, San Diego PD, Newark (NJ) PD, Philadelphia PD, Texas DPS, CHP, and Westchester to name a few do not. Depends on the operator and the aircraft.

There was no bird strike. That is damage from the landing. I'm told that they're investigating engine problems as the potential cause but we probably wont know specifics for some time.

The NY Post article says they were returning to Aviation to refuel. I didn't see anything that said they ran out of fuel. If that is the case, it is a very bad day for that pilot's career. According to one article, the pilot states there was a loud "bang" and the helicopter descended rapidly. That doesn't sound like fuel starvation so we'll have to wait and see what the investigation reveals.

I made the point in the original thread that despite the article being 14 years old it is still true today. You could do a lot of things like substituting PD or FD but that wasn't the point of this thread. My main point is that we are our own worst enemies and still make the same stupid mistakes. It is only a matter of time before there is a horrific crash that we all shake our heads about? Because we don't train our drivers adequately, we don't manage/supervise adequately, and we still permit the abuse. I've heard alot of excuses for abusing lights and siren and not one will stand up in court when, as ALSFF wrote, somebody's luck runs out.

That's a difficult question to answer simply. It depends on the charge(s) and there are sentencing guidelines that define if sentences for different charges can be concurrent or consecutive (most often they're concurrent). I'm pretty sure that the DA would have to sign off on the plea deal but I'm not sure who initiated the discussion in this case.

This is an extremely personal and emotional topic for many members of this forum. Please do not let the argument about the plea deal become an argument between members. If you're taking a "theoretical" or "academic" position, understand that those with a personal interest in this may respond emotionally. Posts attacking each other will be removed from the thread so please stay on topic, re-read your post, and count to 10 before hitting "post". Thank you.

You should ask whoever told you that to cite the source. I'm aware of no such provision regarding emergency lighting in the Vehicle and Traffic Law so it may be locker room lawyer talk. INIT, have you ever heard of any such provision for private property? This is why if you post a statement about a law/regulation/statute/etc. here on EMTBravo we ask that you post a citation to the source so others can review the actual document. Much is lost in translation and interpretation. Thanks!

In Memoriam – NEW YORK'S HEROES Deputy Sheriff William Fitzgerald Westchester County Parkway Police Department End of Watch: Friday, September 13, 1968 Age: Not Available Tour of Duty: Not available Badge Number: Not available Cause of Death: Shooting Date of Incident: Friday, September 13, 1968 Weapon Used: Gun Suspect Info: Gary McGivern, Charles Culhane and Robert Bowerma being transported Deputy Sheriff William Fitzgerald died after being shot while transporting a prisoner in upstate, New York. The shooting occurred on the NYS Thruway near the Ulster County community of Platekill. Fitzgerald and DS Joseph Singer were transporting three prisoners from Auburn State Prison to Westchester County Jail when the three prisoners, Gary McGivern, Charles Culhane and Robert Bowerman tried to escape. The prisoners were riding in the back of a private car owned by Fitzgerald and being driven by DS Singer. The three prisoners were able to loosen their security belts and went for the deputies simultaneously. McGivern seized Singer's gun and shot Fitzgerald. Fitzgerald and prisoner Bowerman were both killed in the gun battle that ensued.

Bob has been in the business longer than most of his employees have been alive. He's been a paramedic throughout the region and brings a great deal of experience to the organization. What exactly are you looking for?