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The article cites two examples, the current "minister" is not accused of stopping vehicles. That was a former mayor of Spring Valley accused of making car stops.

Great, the elusive "grants". That means we're all paying for this one district's AED's. Regardless of that minor issue, it is a good program and they should be applauded for their efforts. CPR would be a great addition to the program and hopefully it will be expanded to include that.

It is advertised as such and is open to the public; I was just relating the original intent of the day. It has since morphed into more.

I'm not aware of an FD response by either Rockland or Westchester. Doesn't it mean there wasn't one; I'm just not aware of it. There were no boats on the water though if that helps.

Because Playland is open and busy on the weekends and, going by the original intent of this program, the target audience works weekdays not weekends. The target audience was originally fleet managers and maintenance people. When the program was first being developed, one of the ideas was to make demo vehicles (police package cars, light SUV's, etc.) available for test driving using Playlands expansive parking lots but liability concerns nixed that right out of the gate.

They probably meant Westchester EMS. The County PD does not run an ALS service.

What a joke! Of course he doesn't see anything wrong with it, we can only hope he reads this article to learn definitively from the DMV and PD that his operation is illegal. No wonder people pay no attention to our lights anymore!

Yup, it's an armored ESU truck. What else do you want to know?

Yes to both. As for mutual aid requests to other counties, they're evaluated on a case by case basis and every effort is made to accommodate the requesting agency. There are occasionally instances where our local requirements prevent us from going but we've been to NJ and CT for plane crashes, Orange County NY for a search and Putnam on several occasions so our administration tries to assist whenever possible.

Troopers are probably considered on-duty when they're operating their issued patrol vehicles (as someone pointed out they're assigned vehicles so commuting to and from work they're still "on duty"). If the trooper saw a violation and took action he's automatically going to be "on-duty". And, yes, if you do something to attract the attention of an "off-duty" trooper, he's probably going to be "on-duty" long enough to introduce himself and give you his autograph.

It is 16... nice shot - where'd you take it?

But the other two had all the donuts!!!

Considering the simple logistics and training requirements (to avoid the politics and egos to the extent possible), the benefit of a County team (or regional teams in larger areas) is that only one cache of equipment is needed for each team and you only have to train one group of team members. Conversely, the department level teams requires 59 different caches of equipment and the training of an exponentially larger number of people. From what I've been told, this was the impetus for County teams back in the 80's. It would have been too labor intensive (regardless of paid/volunteer) to train personnel in every department and too expensive to equip every department. This is not to say that some departments couldn't establish their own teams (such as Yonkers for example) but not every department requires one. The other issue is that of call volume. Are there enough calls in a single district to allow their members to maintain proficiency in all the skills required of a haz-mat tech? Probably not! A county team gets to cover more calls with fewer people so there are more opportunities for experience. That's looking at Westchester as an example. Using an upstate County like in Moose's example, there are problems with staffing even with a County team. And a question of my own... Operationally, how does having so few qualified members affect a team? Don't you need two in and two out for a haz-mat job?

Check out post 26 in http://www.emtbravo.net/index.php?showtopic=24811&hl=

LOL - there are probably 300 in the 3rd Precinct alone...

Not a new concept at all, perhaps it is new to the FD but the PD has been doing "integrity tests" for decades. The feds are also notorious for such sting operations with local/state agencies.

I hope this gets some more press coverage. Great job all involved!

I was at the bank getting a check for my Nigerian lottery winnings when I heard some other people on line talking about this IRS scam. You can never be too careful!

Just to satisfy my own curiosity, when were the hi-rise crews "truly needed" but not picked up?

I'd like to hear the answer to this question as well. If someone can articulate why the FD needs to establish their own aviation unit and/or what calls are not being responded to through the existing relationship with the PD I'd appreciate it. What fire calls warrant a helicopter response that don't receive them? How many of these calls are there? What should/will the FD give up in order to get its own aviation unit? Nobody in civil service gets anything for nothing and invariably something else is sacrificed. Would it be better to have six less engine companies and four less ladder companies in the city to pay for a helicopter that goes out once a month (once a month is pure speculation until someone answers my other question about how many calls the FD needs a helicopter for)? Or should there be an across the boards reduction in pay to subsidize it? If this is all about "them" having one and "us" not having one - paint all the helicopters white with just New York City on it and get past it. It takes years to make a competent emergency services pilot and costs millions to run a 24/7 operation. It's got to be done right or else not at all.

Danger, can you elaborate for those not as well informed as yourself? I understand the obvious about 1" booster lines but what does a community's ISO rating have to do with that?

You mean Suffern. Ramapo is the town that is NOT supporting the plan.

Has it really? How do you figure? A few brush fires and the designation of an air recon battallion at higher alarms? The training, maintenance, and proficiency requirements for an aviation unit are not insignificant and the NYPD provides the service to the FD whenever needed. How do you justify duplicating resources and expenses when budgets are so tight?

Why? If you encounter a deportable subject in the course of your work why shouldn't you be able to detain him and initiate the deportation proceedings since the feds almost never will!

You took the words right off my keyboard! And I thought I was a cynic!