moggie6

County wide dept......

Just wondering if anyone here has ever done a trip out to Detroit to take photo's of fires etc. If you did how were you received. Seems to be a common practice out there..and how were the men and women of the Detroit Fire Department? Were they friendly or just didn't want to be bothered?

I'm sure the tax payers in Hartsdales district are up in arms about it all. Oh wait the probably are letting the commissioners and chief do their jobs.

I love the comment on quality care being something people will worry about in the article. Ha!

Montgomery County Maryland had purchased a CAFS fleet of fire engines. CAFS was thought to be so effective that they switched their whole fleet of fire trucks over to it. Word on the street is that one of the volunteer fire companies refused the county CAFS engine and people said things like "Oh they are not progressive" or "what are they thinking?" or "they just don't want to get with the times". Currently, there is a general order out to not use the CAFS system on the engines. Seems like when you run some fires on a regular basis the true colors of CAFS come out. The issues they experiences may seem like training issues, but believe me they have one of the best training divisions around. Issues were, but not limited to losing tools at building fires in the bubbles, not being able to see stuff and being covered in the solution, maintance issues on their engines,and a considerable amount of time it took to flush every connection and discharge after each CAFS use. Technology is great and I'm all for stuff to make my life easier on the line. However it is an expensive tool that may work but at what cost? The International City/County Management Assocication (ICMA) recently completed a study on the Sandusky, OH Fire Department. The study can be veiwed here: http://www.ci.sandusky.oh.us/documents/ICMAFinalReportSFDOperations2011.pdf The study refers to CAFS and FIT-5 Fire inturrupters as options to reduce staffing or equipment on the road, and essentially says that this equipment can compensate for inadequate management or failure to properly fund public safety operations by politicians. We know what it takes to battle a fire, and we know what kind of resources we require, however, we have to always look at what the other side is thinking, is this what we would want for OUR Fire Service?

I think if you google FD Live In you will get a good idea of a live in program. Or www.FDLivein.com

How do you not have that 207c in your contract?

Plain and simple get the calls covered or put someone there who will do it for you. Start some where and if you have to pay someone to be there then do it. Boss159 which departments are you referring to in your area that are pushing mergers because of budget issues?

Let us keep the comments down until we hear otherwise with respect to everyone involved.

The same thing is a foot in Dutchess County as well. Only a select few know of the special equipment at the county.

I'm curious...why do cops not have this problem? I have never heard of the PBA taking a stance on Full Time Officers working for Part Time Depts. What about part time police officers working at full time jobs? I have a police officer that comes into the fire house every now and then and will say, "Hey man I do your job for free. There is no difference between you and me except you get the pay check." So I tell him that i'm taking the 8 hour security class and the NYS Armed Guard Class and I can do his job for less. There is no difference between him the law enforcement officer and me the "qualified armed guard". He backs up and says no no no no you can't do that. I agree with Bneichs. the big thing is training standards.....

I don't care who is helping with the lifting. Just get it over with and move on. Next call please! If anything maybe the topic should have been turned around to "How Lift Assist help with Public Relations". The first agency through the door wins the PR. (that is not an excuse for a lights and siren response.) The other lift assist, i.e. helping EMS agencies out with lifting, are other excellent opportunities for public relations.

What is the number of the new quint?

This is what we need! Another private ambulance company in the Hudson Vally Area!

Like everything with calling to albany you can get two different answers is you call twice.

Well this should bring lots of jobs to NY given E-Ones reputation for quality apparatus......

that is amazing

Not stirring the pot. Just asking for info.

Does anyone have the break down of when the inital call went in, when the first piece of fire equipment (fire engine) responded, and when the first unit was on scene. As well as the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd dispatches?

Fire happens. Everyone has there moments when they are busy. I think it was about 10 years ago there was a dept down south that ran a lot of fires, some even twice, and it was just dumb luck.

For those of us who have bought patients to Vassar's Emergency Room...... Does anyone find the computers they have annoying?

This is a post just like any other post. I think the point of this is to make sure other districts out there are following the rules. It seems that this is what the state is going to be making a point of with the new "open government" plan. From the short time I worked in Putnam County I hardly believe that the Brewster\Southeast Fire District is running some sort of corruption ring in regards to taxpayer monies. Maybe we should all take a look at how we are doing business and make sure we are on the up and up. No one is safe from the state and their investigations. Trust me I know.

This is not true and i'm sorry but you are wrong. How can I say you are wrong? Because I was working on Engine 1 in Poughkeepsie when I had to wait for a Transcare ambulance when Alamo was not around. It was under mutual aid but they did respond to the city and make it to the scene. If you want feel free to ask myself or roger doger for the details. This thread is a joke.

I can't believe how much of hornets nest this has stirred up.

City government is the one calling the shots here. As a former city resident I am happy the city finally signed a contract with an ambulance provider. As a local firefighter I am happy that Mobile Life Supports CERT team will be closer to all of us who are on the fire side of things to provide rehab etc.