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An old friend of mine, Mike Day is in serious trouble. Michael has been in the Fire Service in Dutchess County in several capacities, he has been a volunteer for Hyde Park and Staatsburg. He worked at Grubb& Ellis as a Firefighter and he also an EMT at Alamo and for Northern Dutchess Paramedic.
Michael is married to his high school sweetheart and they have three children together. Michael's Father is a retired City of Poughkeepsie Firefighter. If any of you have anything that you can give, I encourage you to please visit www.hopeformike.com. I am talking to a few friends of mine and we are tossing around idea's to hold an event, whether it's a spaghetti dinner or a charity concert we are in the beginning of the planning stage. In the mean time Mike and his family are in need of help. Please take the time to read his entire story. www.hopeformike.com Thank You!

Pleasant Valley Fire from Dutchess County has a crew up there right now. They like other agencies are on a 72 hour mission.

Your assertion was that the PD is trying to perform an FD function and we were merely pointing out that PD performed these services first in many communities thereby refuting your point as it could be argued that the FD's started to perform.
What in the emergency services is based strictly upon need? There are many more duplicative resources especially in Westchester County. Nobody suggested that history and tradition dictate our roles; we merely highlighted a contrarian viewpoint. On what standards should we base these needs? I wish we did more needs assessments to determine what was needed vs. what is popular or more cool.
Having been one of the officers to which you're referring, I will argue that the WCPD ESU could perform most extrications very well regardless of the unit staffing. The tool is really a one-person job anyway and additional resources/support could always be requested. One of the toughest extrications I ever worked, I worked with an EMS supervisor from a commercial EMS and not the FD.
I'll counter your hostage argument with what happens when FD is on a fire and a pin job comes in or vice versa?
I don't think they're competing and the 289 Nep scaffolding job proves that point. PD and FD worked well together.
Yup, that's who I meant.
SWAT may be one function of ESU but ESU generally performs many other services besides SWAT. The ESU or CIU trucks in Westchester County do much more than just SWAT. LAPD SWAT is just that, SWAT.
We've discussed this at length in other threads and I think the consensus was no, they shouldn't all be cross-trained.
What differences are you referring to?
Your initial post was construed by many, myself included, to be rather critical of cops in NY. I, and others, have responded to dispute your assertions and have done so factually and respectfully. The discussion has also morphed from a comparison of police in Texas and New York to who should provide rescue services in Westchester County and it is slanted against existing PD units.
I wanted to give you a negative rep point because I don't think the initial post articulated your position well and when someone has to start it with a disclaimer that you're not being critical it is generally because they are.
If you want to discuss regional differences in law enforcement let's do that but let's not do so while simultaneously insinuating that cops in NY are somehow less than their peers in Texas.
Finally, your last remark seems to be hlghly inflammatory. What exactly do you mean with that remark?

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92k isnt enough when you have two man engines!