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It's kind of a "don't ask, don't tell" thing. A lot of people do it and I don't know of anyone getting in trouble or losing thier job over it. I have heard that if you volunteer in a neighboring town of where you work you can not respond with that company in which you volunteer.

Assuming when and if you get the job. Then, when your contract gets renegotiated and the city you work for tries to take things away I.E. benefits, time off, no pay raise. Then you will care what way the IAFF is headed.

I can't believe this is still going on. This has taken four pages to get the moderators point across. Move on and use this site for something constructive. Just don't curse......

Ok Dan I'll bite. At work we have a lead that goes from our D ring in the pants built in harness to a friction device with a bunch of holes in it. The heavier guys wrap about 3 holes this means you LOL... to a beaner at the end.Works well you can get your hands past the window cill and not pinch them. We are in the process of trying to decide if we are going to order more Mourning Pride or GEXTRIME. Some guys have the GEXTRIME and we have ordered gut belts for those members. I also learned the rope around the bottle in Safety and survival. The most important thing is not to get into trouble in the first place. Hope I never need to do it. Big job on Carroll street the other night. Also no more Tahoe... Take life by the horns if you know what I mean.

But you know as well as I do there are people who don't wear it that way because they see a fire in the paper or on the news and a few brothers aren't wearing the waist strap for what ever reason. Being the "OVM" , not going to work right away ETC. The pack is designed to be worn with the straps done to take weight off the shoulders. As PARTYROCK stated until probie school he didn't wear his either. I was the same way and I also had no reason. I was one of the ones that thought it looked cool, I am also guilty as charged ole129k. A F.F. from Rescue 3 F.D.N.Y. told me he was going down a snotty hallway and had to make a hasty reatreat and his waist belt was not done and he had gotten tangled in a shopping cart. Ever since then I have worn it. Thanks Greg.

We use to have one in our engine at HQ but it got taken out and never to be seen again. They bought a tough book and put in the Capt squad it has internet access and haz mat info and we were told that it would at some point have building types and occupancy info installed for our responce area.

Four letters F.D.N.Y. ....... City guys please dont take that the wrong way , many of you do wear the waist strap... just like the salty helmet issue and the dirty gear ... people think it looks cool, it is a safety issue. If you wear the gear the correct way you should not have a problem.

39 Truck is now housed with 63 Engine in the 15th Batt correct?

32-52/RESCUE 2 FDNY. Better picture on FDNYTRUCKS.COM click on other states then click on Dutchess county then Arlington Fd.

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I agree PARTY it still cool to take a look back though. After all Fire engines,trucks and rescues are RED. LOL......

Sounds like she can do the job. Good for her. Go get em.

Seth, its funny you say that because there has been 2 accidents in Pleasant Valley in the past few days where the occupants have run. The fire dept has used a T.I.C. To look for them. Look out for farm animals...LOL

Sorry Merlin I did see that you said full time medics. But is that f.f. medic. The fire dept already pays around $150,00 for the firefighters on duty that does not include the ambulance coverage. So hiring 1 more Career firefighter would be about another $50,000 benefits , uniforms retirement included. Then figure out the cost for the fly car. Would the total cost be less? I don't know. But with the $122,000 for the Ambulance coverage and the 4 Career firefighters your at $322,000. Is a fly car less money? Thats just Monday - Friday daytime hrs weekends and nights not included. They are not looking for 24/7 coverage just days.

YOU DONT UNDERSTAND THEY ARE NOT LOOKING FOR 24 HR COVERAGE IN THAT PRICETAG. THAT IS ONLY FOR DAYTIME COVERAGE. NIGHTS AND WEEKENDS ARE NOT INCLUDED. HOW ARE THEY GETTING A BARGAN THE PRICE IS 8 X WHAT IT WAS. THE TOWN DOESNT SEEM TO THINK ITS A BARGAN OR THEY WOULD NOT BE LOOKING AT OTHER OPTIONS. YOURE FIGURES ARE WRONG THE OTHER FIREFIGHTERS ARE ALREADY ON THE JOB AND WORKINGAND INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET.

They do provide service 24/7 but on nights and weekends Alamo is coming from Poughkeepsie or somewhere else in the county not out of the firehouses. The town also dosn't get billed for that service the patient does, if they get transported ALS or BLS. I think they need to look at every option possible and then make a decision. As far as benefits,uniforms, and retirement for Career Firefighters that is all included in the $50,000 figure I had put in a previous post. I do not know how EMS does there benefits, P.Vs firefighters are part of the New York Police and Fire retirement system.

First of all Pleasant Valley Career Firefighters have a work schedule of 07:30 to 15:30 hrs. No one said hire them around the clock. And Alamo is only contracted in the past for 05:00 to 17:00 Monday - Friday. When Pleasant Valley hired Career fighters in October 2001 the cost was $50,000 per man per year. Even if they decided to hire one more guy the tax payers are already paying for the other 3. The tax increase was $1.07 per $100,000. You can't even begin to compare Pleasant Valley to Fairvew,Lagrange or Arlington. Fairview and Lagrange have 16 Career firefighters and Arlington has over 70. As stated before they are going to shop around this is just another option. The new price tag for ambulance service is over $100,000,what is the price differance between a full als ambulance and a fly car. Don't you think that its better than $9,000 a month. Pleasant Valley Career members are at the lowest end of the pay scale for Professional firefighters in Dutchess County starting at $28,500 a year with almost no overtime. So the answer to your question is yes hire 1 more career guy, have them run the ambulance an contract for a fly car if there is going to be a cost savings. Sounds like you might work for Alamo.

PD 125 I think you might have your facts a little bit wrong. Back when Alamo was first contracted in Pleasant Valley, the Fire district turned over the decision to the town board on what they thought should be done. The town board at that time hired Alamo with a full Ambulance EMT and MEDIC Monday - Friday 05:00 to 17:00 hrs. The cost was very little to the town budget. They also set aside $15,000 in a slush fund to cover bills to the patient not covered by the patients insurance. Alamo has been running ambulance calls in Pleasant Valley for almost 8 years out of the Fire house on Main street or Cottage street in Salt Point with 3 Career fire fighters to assist and run the ambulance on a second call when Alamo cant backfill. I know because I used to be one of those Paid guys. Since then I have transfered to another department. My family still lives in Pleasant Valley and I think that the increase is out of controll. I say just get a Alamo fly car and hire 2 more Career fighters. I think the cost would be alot less. If the Medic is not needed then he goes back in service and there is still 3 Firefighters to cover the fire equipment.

Most guys I see on my job have them down. Use to be if it wasn't down you got in trouble. I wear mine all the time.

We use older out of service bottles and packs with no air in them.

I don't think they are talking about the grass and bushes around the station. They are being sent out into the city to do the work. In my opinion it's not a good idea. Are all 15 on duty firefighters going or just one rig with 3 or 4 members.

Also Army /Navy on the 400 block of main st IN PK.

I like 24's the best. We use to work the 3-10 hr day tours,3 days off -then 3- 14 hr nights. I never did well with the night schedule. Now 1 24 hr tour and it's over for three days then another 24. More time with the family. I have also heard of 3 days,3nights 6 off, or 2 days, 2 nights, 4 off,or 2 days ,2 off, 2 nights, 4 off. It depends on how many groups the department has.

Transport times to area Hospitals are 8 to 10 min depending on call location.