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Leather boots without any question or hesitation. As far as the helmets, I prefer leather myself. The original New Yorker with Bourkes that is, before they started adding all the junk to it like ratchets, face shields, goggles, heavy impact caps, etc. My helmet is around 20 years old, fits like a glove and is very light compared to the newer leather lids.

That sucks. He was a bit off the wall (then again, most Aussies are) but a good all around guy and very big on conservation and protecting animals. RIP mate.

Yes, Morning Pride offers zipper closures as an option.

Speaking of zippers, what are they making them out of these days, plastic? My coat (a 1997ish vintage Janesville Commando) actually had a brass zipper which was pretty sturdy. Never had any trouble with it at all.

I love it...it's perfectly legal for some hamhead whacker like that to have all that crap, but in NYS a firefighter with a lousy scanner in his car is breaking the law. What an absolute joke.

No, it was not LODD. The kid just joined too on August 3rd. Wake is tomorrow night, 7pm to 9pm, at Wanamaker Carlough in Suffern and Funeral Mass on Friday morning, 10am, at Sacred Heart Church in Suffern. I don't have any more details then what was in the paper. http://www.nyjnews.com/obits/Obit1.php?pid=2061833

$300 is CHEAP for a digital camcorder, especially with all the features that model has. I'm not sure how cheap you thought they were.

Sony DCR-HC26, best bang for the buck. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16830179047

5-7 signal is for a 1 and 1 response.

RIP Mike

I'm sorry, but were you attempting to chastise everyone who has posted in this thread by telling us to "GROW UP"? If so, heed your own advice first please. Calling someone a "tard" isn't exactly the grown up thing to do. We are all entitled to our opinions, especially since none of us voted this guy in the first time, and even WORSE, reelected him AFTER the entire Katrina fiasco. His comments weren't spun or taken out of context by the media, he said them on camera, and after being given more than a few opportunities to recant, he just tried to make it like he was "keepin it real". As to the rest of your post, it really doesn't even make sense. What do you propose we, as NY'ers, should "do" about Nagin other than comment here on what a moron he obviously is? Do tell.

Do you maybe mean the Nelsonville FD in Putnam? If so, they were dissolved in July 2001 but it was actually the dept itself that asked the village board to dissolve them because of lack of volunteers. I'm not aware of any fire district that was involved in the dissolution, but I'm pretty sure Cold Spring FD took over their response area and now serve the villages of Cold Spring and Nelsonville in the Philipstown/Cold Spring Fire District. In any case, I think when they say "no district has ever been dissolved in NYS", they mean by public referendum. EDIT: EJS beat me to it

http://www.letssaythanks.com Time to fill one out: 2 minutes Cost to you: Free Putting a smile on someone's face over there: Priceless

I think he's gonna stay and move back with Janet and kids. Sheila is going to completely lose it and there is gonna be major drama with her leading into next season.

BTW, I much preferred the zipper under Velcro closure. It was quick and easy to close, even in the back of a pitch black truck with gloved hands. It also made the best seal possible and didn't have any exterior protrusions to get caught or snagged. The zipper was heavy duty brass and I never had a problem with it over the course of over 6 years with the same coat. Also, I never had the Velcro come undone either. As far as the FAST comment/question, the integrity of the fabric is the least of your worries. Most gear today is PBI which is interweaved with Kevlar, meaning it's very tough stuff. You'd be hard pressed to tear it or have it otherwise fail if you dragged a guy by his coat. The weak link would be the closure system. I will say, I've seen and had hooks come off gear over the years, especially suspender hooks. It's not too difficult for the rivets to either break or tear right through the gear. With a zipper/Velcro setup, both closures run the entire length of the opening and are sewn to the outer shell material itself using Nomex or Kevlar thread.

Well, I can only go by these quotes from the news article: I find the second quote particularly interesting. How is it that it's perfectly alright to make a comment like "the department's history as a black organization must be preserved", yet if the same were said about a different department, replacing the word "black" with "white", it would be akin to an atomic bomb going off? Or if a department were overwhelmingly white, you would hear cries of "we need to attract more minorities"? You've just got to love reverse racism and discrimination, you really do.

This story just gets better and better. Now they're trying to pull the race card??? If the entire community is primarily black, and they've gotten signatures from over 50% of the households, then someone tell me how it's possible that it's racially motivated! Unless it's another sad case of black on black crime. I can't wait for Sharpton to get involved in this one. As I said when this story first broke, the tax rate there is outrageous by ANY measure. Taxes are high all over this area...in Rockland and Westchester and Nassau and etc etc etc, but not THAT high. Especially for such a small population and area. Our district is one of the largest in Rockland covering double digit square miles of around 10,000 households and around 30,000 residents (not even including all the commercial areas), we have to support over 100 members and a fleet of around 15 apparatus and other vehicles and run almost 1000 calls a year, all with a smaller budget than these guys! That right there is the crux of the problem, they're trying to run some kind of full service dept that could probably cover an area 10x the size of what they do, which runs their budget through the roof. While I applaud them for doing the best they can to protect their population and keeping up with the times as far as equipment goes, unfortunately when you do the math it's clear that if your area or population is TOO small, there is going to be a huge imbalance between your source of funding and your required budget. I think maybe if they ran one truck out of a small firehouse they might be able to run a dept with a reasonable tax burden, but not the way they're currently setup. While I hate to see any district, department or company fold, it's definitely time for them to do right by their citizens and realize that they're doing more harm than good at this point. They've long since passed the tipping point of providing a needed community service and simply sucking the taxpayers dry. They need to be proactive now and figure out a way to perhaps join another fire district so they broaden their tax base. I see no reason why they can't maintain some degree of company autonomy by doing this. They really have no choice, it seems it's come to the point that it's either they make some compromises or they'll be forced to shut down regardless.

I've worn them both (even in combination) and have never had a problem with either. My first coat was the traditional snaps under the flaps with hooks on the outside. My second coat was a zipper inside with velcro on the outside. Here are my thoughts about each closure: Zipper Pro: Quick and easy to operate and provides a full seal Con: Sometimes they get stuck or jammed or can split open under enough force Velcro Pro: Generally they use a wide enough strip of industrial strength type that it holds closed very well and provides a full seal Con: It sticks to itself (obviously), but sometimes before you've had a chance to line it up properly. More of a hassle than a problem though. Snaps Pro: Easy to operate Con: Leaves you exposed as there is no seamless seal. Can pop open under enough force. Hooks Pro: Easy to operate and very strong Con: Leaves you exposed somewhat. Also, when put on the outside of the coat, they can get snagged while you're crawling around.

Um, I'm not really sure what to make of this, but overall I don't think it has any real world practical significance. There's no mention of what manufacturer and model SCBA were used, no mention of what size bottles were used, the third group didn't even start with the same volume in the bottle and, most importantly, chances are each test subject didn't have equal lung capacity. So for them to say the test was "not entirely scientific" is to say the least, but to then say that the results are "significant" is ridiculous. If you're not going to have a practical, real world experiment where all factors are equal, there's no sense in doing it at all. As far as turning off the bottle, c'mon now. Any Scott user knows this is a pain in the butt, having to reach back, push the knob in THEN turn it. Highly impractical during firefighting operations. By the time you turn it off, you're ready for your next breath, unless you hold your breath for a minute or so, which is not recommended. Also, what happens if the valve malfunctions and you can't turn the bottle back on? Sorry, but once my bottle is on when I'm in an IDLH environment, it STAYS on*. I would never, ever train someone to turn their bottle off at any point. If your Vibralert goes off, get the hell out, period. As far as the Vibralert venting air to the outside environment, it does not. It's a closed system where the air used to power it is diverted directly into the facepiece. Bottom line is that the best and safest method of conserving air is to learn to control your emotions and breathing. *The ONLY time I would consider disregarding this is if I were trapped and had absolutely no other choice in the matter and thought it would buy me a few extra minutes. Even then, I'd be leary of turning the bottle off.

I didn't mention Tallman because those two trucks are HUGE, and pretty far off from the criteria he laid out. Congers' 1501 I forgot to mention, that's a pretty compact truck and more in line with their needs. Spring Valley's 2000 is more a pumper with a set of Jaws on it than it is a typical rescue-pumper, but it is pretty compact and probably worth looking at. Tallman 20-2001 and 20-Tanker Congers 3-1501 Spring Valley 17-2000

What a chucklehead. Anyone here listen to or watch Imus? Bernard's impression of him cracks me up.

Here are some rigs in Rockland that are the closest match to what you're looking for: Haverstraw (General Warren) - 4-EM Hillcrest - 6-1250 Nanuet - 8-EQ Sparkill - 16-1000 Spring Valley (Rockland Hook & Ladder) - 17-Rescue Some of them are a bit old (like our 1250), but you could probably still get some ideas off them.

Telemetry. Nothing new here, they've been using it since the early days of the space program, and indeed for pre-hospital EKG for decades. I find it a bit odd that nowhere in the article is the word "telemetry" even mentioned. It's almost as if they're trying to pass off decades old technology as something new and groundbreaking. Sure, the mode of transmission might be updated, but the premise and end result is exactly the same.

Oh. My.

Oh man...that ain't right lol. It's funny, in a morbid "the world is cruel" sort of way, but I can definitely see some people taking it the wrong way and seeing firefighters in a negative light because of it. But I definitely laughed, not gonna lie. Speaking of commercials...you know what commercials lately REALLY piss me off? All these 9/11 commemorative crap like the coins. I'm so sick of seeing them. "This coin was minted from actual gold recovered from the vaults of the World Trade Center" Everytime I hear that, it turns my stomach. The new coin with the flip up towers...you have got to be kidding me. Disgusting and blatant opportunism off one of the worst tragedies in our history. I hope everyone who was outraged about the WTC movie is just as outraged over this garbage.