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There are 59 different standards as each dept. determines what if anything they want. On top of that as chiefs change over, the new chief gets to change the local "standard". All depends on the dept.

In May 2002, NYS legislation was approved to require all public school districts, BOCES, county vocational education and extension boards, and charter schools, to provide and maintain on-site, in each instructional school facility, at least one functional automated external defibrillator (AED). In August 2002, an amendment to the legislation was adopted that allowed school districts, BOCES, county vocational and extension boards, and charter schools that are unable to comply with the new law by September 1, 2002, to delay implementation until December 1, 2002. Note: the law was past after every school had set there budget for the 2002/3 school year. And many schools had to use contigincy funds or lay off personnel to meet this state unfunded mandate. The extension was granted, because the massive run on AED's state wide, made them unavailable. In my district they purchased more than 50 AEDs, Now how many school were purchased in the 700 school districts in NYS? What Does Education Law §917 Require? Section 917 of Education Law requires all school districts to become Public Access Defibrillator providers in accordance with Public Health Law 3000-b. Prior to the passage of Section 917, school districts were encouraged to voluntarily become PAD providers. Under Public Health Law 3000-b all school districts, BOCES, county vocational education and extension boards, and charter schools must provide and maintain on-site, in each instructional school facility, at least one functional automated external defibrillator (AED) for use during emergencies. The legislation also requires public school officials and administrators responsible for such school facilities to ensure the presence of at least one staff person who is trained in the operation and use of an AED. How many AEDs will districts and BOCES need? Districts must consider: size and physical layout of the building, number and ages of individuals in the building, types and locations of athletic events, location of curricular and extracurricular events, and other design features that might be unique to the facility. An AED must be available whenever public school facilities (including school districts, BOCES, county vocational education and extension or a charter school) are used for school sponsored or approved curricular or extracurricular activities and events, including athletic contests. A school sponsored athletic event means both extraclass intramural activity of instruction, practice and competition for students in grades 4-12 and interschool competitive athletic events of instruction, practice or competition for students in grades 7-12 held at any location, even non-public school facilities. As a general rule, the Taylor Law provides that the addition of a duty is mandatorily negotiable if the additional duty is not inherently part of the employee's existing duty description. Therefore, those employees who are already required, as part of their regular duties, to provide emergency care response, can be required to perform AED use without additional compensation. So most school district employees can get paid for training in AED & technically paid for maintaining their certification, even if they are unlikely to use it. Thats a lot of money

If those rural homes are more than 5 miles outside the city, the insurance industry automatically assigns them a ppc #10. Which means they charge them based on the understanding that any fire will be a total loss. Regardless of the FD, its capability or its rating.

Thanks SFRD18 for giving my my 1,000th Rep point. I am particularly pleased that it occured in: "New Rochelle Avoids Firefighter Layoffs" It could not have been in a better catagory Seth I demand a raise.....At least 25% Thank you to the others who have also contributed.

He cant, he is the chief.

New Rochelle Fire Department is hiring a part time - hourly position. This individual will be responsible for scheduling and documenting EMT CME. Managing EMS supplies and special projects. The candidate must be a current NYS EMT(B, I or P). Civil service rules require New Rochelle residency (if no qualified resident is hired, the offer will be made to those who live outside the City of New Rochelle). The attached flyer gives additional details. Application Period closes: December 16, 2011 CME Data Job.pdf

LOL...Thanks, but Only Seth can do that here. In NR only time will tell.

Simply not true, because we all remember..............."If the glove does not fit you must acquit"

And for X-mas..................Mant to save money on your daily drive to work, school or shopping, or need to close your eyes for a few minutes during that long highway drive to Disney, or to druck to safely drive home........ Then you need ACME's Econo Hook. Just hook on and shut your car off. Saves $1,000 at the pump each year.

Functionally it could be but under ISO it can not be replaced by a squad. The ISO increase would not cover the savings. ISO requires in most communities a pump capacity that matches the 3 highest required fire flow in that district. The vast majority require 3,500gpm minimum. If you own 1,500gpm pumpers, then you need 3. Even without that, you need a minimum of 2 plus a spare. Now back to our regularly scheduled Croton EMS debate.

Under labor law they would need to negoiate that and as to cost savings, I'd have to study it, but off the top of my head, I would say this would increase overtime by 16 hours per man per week. Thats 124,800 additional overtime hours. Just to look at it from a money number if the OT rate was $50/hr (for found numbers) the cost would be an additional $6,240,000 per year plus benefits. That would be a 25% increase in our budget. The advantage of that work schedule is they could maintain a similare onduty shift with approximatly 25% fewer ff's. or not cost savings, but fewer employees spreeding the welth.

I will happen again next year and the year after that and the year after that........... Local governmental funding will continue to go down until (at a minimum) Albany gets its sh*t together. We wrote about this in the consolidation plan 3 years ago that this was coming. I have spoken with a number of communities around us and they all have said they will need to cut services in the years ahead. Maybe some of our leaders need to consider that every 20 years we go thru this and while their is some recovery, it never gets back to where we were.

We would call it a mask service unit. Others an SCBA compressor vehicle

Good defense, since he knew where the seat of the fire was, he did no the best positioning...lol

Can you describe this "Temporary" funding? Most communities that have been laying off are dropping to levels that they have not seen in 50 years. that does not sound very temporary. When NYS changed the rules last year and said "Tax Cap" then increased the unfunded mandates above the level of the tax cap how can a local government properly budget. When our City Council agreed on how many fireifghters, police and EMS we would need in the Envirnomental impact statements to build a number of new developments (including 40 story buildings) Thats what we "really need". The number and type of incidents does not care about our "new economic reality". What we really need is the proper number of staff to handle the call volume. Here is an economic reality, every time the politicians have cut staffing (and not just in my city) the injury rate goes up. And the municipality gets to pay for it. Currently we pay well over a $ million for a force that is never coming to work and we will pay for them till they are at least 62 years old. Your "new economic reality" is do more with less, but actually spend more money for reduced services. Both the FEDS & Univ. of RI have great studies on this. URI's showed that 3 man engine companies cost more than 4 man, because of the injury rate.

Kevin, I dont take it personally, but you threw a shot across our bow...so I must. It is not up to that "paid service" to cover more calls than the number of abulances the municipalitis leadership is willing to contract for. There was a time when the city only ran 1) 24 hour & 1) 16 hour bus and they contracted to cover Pelham as well. Slowly over time this improved. But we were stuck for a long time at 2) 24 hr (and no more Pelham). We were handing over a couple hundred calls to mutual aid each year and asked all of the VAC's we were "abusing" to document it and help us correct this. 1 said no, 1 said they liked it cause it helped them pay for the medic (but eventially did send a letter) and 1 after a couple of requests sent a letter. We now have 2) 24 hr & 1) 12 hr. and the number of mutual aid requests dropped by 70%. And we now have the resources to go mutual aid out, in fact this week we covered calls in both Eastchester and Larchmont. And we provide them at an ALS level. thank you.

Very funny Seth.

I thought in the keys S&W means swimming and wadding..... Kind of tought to carry in your trunks.....

How much of that difficulty is because these cases are against governments, vs. not for profits?

1) Any apparatus that the manufacturer states requires a minimum of 3 fireifghters to operate (1 at the turntable when personel are in the bucket and 2 in the bucket if in smoke), and the dept. that purchase it only has 1 firefighter assigned is not really "suited" for that dept. 2)How is a 75' ariel ideal in a community that has a large number of 7 story buildings? Wouldn't a 100' footer make more sense?

DOH has a full set of teeth. They could revoke the CON (certificate of need) if they wanted to. The problem is they dont. We do not need another state law, we need enforcement. I wonder if DOH could be included in a wrongful death lawsuit, where the agency has a well documented history of failure to cover its CON? What obligation does DOH have to protect a patient in this case? Could the documentation in WREMSCO's QI/QA policy become the reason in the future for a CON investigation? If nothing else, as was said before, admitting you have a problem is the 1st step. This policy requires the agencies to document areas (like response) that need improvement. That might help agencies admit what they are writing down.

We always did. I remember about 30 years ago Eastchester had an ambulance stolen while the crew was on a heart attack. rig was rolled over & totaled after striking and killing the Scarsdale Animal warden.

Yes...No...Maybe. Last night the city manager & the finance commissioner advised the city council that they had budgeted our health insurance based on previous estimates from the state. This week the figure from the state was reduced by about $1m. Leaving that amount available in the budget. The City council requested the budget be ammended to not have FD or PD (crossing guards) layoffs. They have still not voted on the budget, and wont for 2-3 weeks, but it looks like they do not want those layoffs. We are still lossing positions due to attrition and will still be at the lowest manning levels in 75 years.

According to the Mayor, Valentine is highly qualified to be the public safety commissioner because, he is willing to do it for $10,000 per year (if memory serves). Since he has been out of town working his "A" job the whole time, what this means for Stamford is he will still be out of town and they wont have to pay him.

Individual savings would vary, particularly since different depts.. currently have different ratings. But the savings are definitely greater than the costs. The best comparison is not the savings from improving......2 years ago I looked at the average tax bill in NR and calculated how much of that goes to the FD it was $435/yr. If we got rid of the FD and gave back the $435 to the taxpayers their insurance premium would go up by at least $1,200. So just be existing (at the level we are) we save every property owner 3x what we cost. And that without even responding to 1 call. Consolidation is not happening, but I would not say its dead. We are facing cuts, others are also facing cuts. Currently there is no political will to proceed, the general attitude is we would rather all sink as separate depts., than try to find a lasting solution. It’s clear that the politicians, the chiefs, the unions and the volunteers are hoping that some miracle will occur and will save us forever, once they realize that our situation will be the new norm for the foreseeable future, then maybe they will realize we must change or we will be gone.