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That's one of the reasons why the FDNY/Westchester Mutual aid drills have been using the UTAC frequencies

Eastchester, Mt Vernon, New Rochelle, Pelham and Pelham Manor all use FDNY 2 1/2" thread on hose and hydrants (not steamer connection.

FDNY does not send a few units on Mutual aid. They send a 1st alarm assignment and they expect when they come to be put to work. I have never seen them come and cover.

And the Journal News snuck in the anti-Semitism accusation against LoGuidice which they previously reported was fabricated by Supervisor Finer.

"If you have to ask how much it costs, you can't afford it." - J.P.Morgan

It is very expensive to maintain trauma status and it often costs more than it generates in revenue. The new standard is even more involved. The number of patients that it generated for MNR was very low. As medics would often by-pass and go to Jacobi (level 1) anyway.

Not really. Its been asked, but rarely has the fire service got up and real made a stink. How hard did we lobby for it? Did we complain as loudly as when the state threatened to take away the blue light?

How about the fire service lobbying against it?

AGREED. It must be nice to have a control man. Sure beats stretching the line, then running back to open the valve, then running to open the nozzle and flushing it, then hoping the pressure is correct, because you can't really adjust it. Or hoping the next due engine can get it for you. This is how most depts. are forced to operate

Much of what you wrote I agree with, but a few items.... 1) "how well a major MCI can be handled." - Nothing against any of the responders because it sounds like they did a fine job, but there were about a dozen patients transported and that is not a "major" MCI. what if the train had derailed? what if it had tipped over? From an MCI stand point this was a very minor event that could have been catastrophic. 2) "where is there boundary?" (60 Control) - While I do not always agree with WHAT their boundaries are, the chiefs all know WHERE they are. 3) "It isn't realistic calling departments from literally miles away to go to the scene or standby when you have resources closer by." - Sometimes it is. Again stripping every resource in an area makes no sense, but also sometimes departments that are farther away can get there faster because, they get out quicker, or they can respond via highways vs back roads or because they are staffed.

Thank you. The cost savings in the 1st few years would be minimal, if any. Their would need to be a lot of additional equipment, radios etc. to standardize. You are correct, a number of departments are not legally able to enter burning buildings do to lack of staffing. While, in the long term there was fleet savings, again it was in the less than 1% range, in part because many of the apparatus were at the end of their service life, also we identified more than 1/2 the houses needed massive rebuild or replacement. The goal was to see if we could get up to the standards for response/staffing and we were pleasantly surprised to see that the costs to do it were approximately the same as what we were collectively paying now. I agree, their are many other areas for consolidation. unfortunately while Albany claims they want consolidation and the tax cap is designed to force it, they still will not acknowledge that under current state laws City's can not merge with towns or villages (including just services like fire).

We have been using 2" rubber hose. 75' lengths for about 20 years. "Angus Hi-Power is an ultra-lightweight, maneuverable, nitrile rubber hose designed specifically for fighting fires in high rise buildings. The lightweight through-the-weave construction is heat and puncture resistant, kink resistant and has low friction loss. The rubber cover prevents water from penetrating the reinforcement thus minimizing the weight of the hose when in service. The standard color for Hi-Power is blue."

Yes but in many other places that also have the same standards from one place to another. Standards for response, Standards for equipment Standards for personnel Standards for training. You will never see a "system" here until everyone agrees to follow similar rules.

1) You would be surprised how many don't want the help. 2) Never looked at measuring this, but its commonly held belief that it has to improve. 3) It most definitely would, however while those savings can be substantial, in the overall budget its a small %. 4) I am sure their can be, but again in the grand scheme, its a very very small percentage

The Yonkers PD unit is certified as an ambulance and can transport it if staff is available to take care of the specific patient needs (which is true for most ambulances).

Having spent a lot of time working on consolidation financials I can say that your statements only work if each department is overstaffed (particularly in admin). While their may need to be fewer chiefs of departments, many small depts. do not have anyone performing many critical administrative functions (training, safety, codes, etc.) Sometimes a consolidations is about trying to provide the proper service levels. When we did the southern Westchester study we had one mandate, to meet NFPA 1710. We had 9 departments in the study and none were meeting 1710.That meant every rig needed 3/1 and that 90% of the calls would have an engine in 4 min and every box would have 22 firefighters in 8 min. After figuring out the time parameters and vehicles/stations needed we calculated the number of employees that would be needed. What we found was that the total # of employees the 9 departments was only about 10 short of the 600+ needed. While we did not get into a major financial analysis, that fact alone told us that the costs of consolidation was neutral, but the service level meant that every fire alarm increased of 6 to 19 additional firefighter.

We have 2 in the coastal evacuation zone that evacuated during Sandy (a 3rd chose to rid it out) Including approx. 30 vent dependent patients. Durining Irene one facility was ordered by NYS DOH to take evacuated patients from a Far rockaway SNF, They advised the DOH, they could not as they were evacuating themselves.

We have standardized our 3 newest engines (and in the future the other rigs as they are replaced will change to this): Front bumper: nothing (members advised they would rather stretch the same way for trash, brush, car or a structure fire.) Cross Lay 1: Deadload 200' High Pressure 3" Hose with a gated wye. Used for court yard stretch & supplying FDC. Cross Lay 2: Deadload 200' x 2 1/2" Hose with akron mini monitor Rear 1: Deadload 600' x 1 3/4" w/ Task Force Fog. Max stretch is generally 300' leaving a second line available underneath. Rear 2: Deadload 800' x 2" w/ straight nozzle. Rear 3: Deadload 600' x 2 1/2" w Straight nozzle Rear 4: Deadload 800' x 5" LDH Supply Units also carry: 3) 75' x 2" Standpipe Hose with straight nozzle. 1) 50' x 2 1/2" Standpipe hose 2) 25' x 5" LDH in the pump panel running boards 1) 50' x 5" LDH rolled in pump operators compartment

SALARY: 2015 SALARY $39,543 – $87,312

Because the counties unit is not "designed" to be used at emergency incidents. Its just to evacuate nursing homes. Wonder if it can be modified to function in an emergency?

No where in the application does it say you must have a pulse.

1) Wrong. From the city website: FILING PROCEDURE: In order to be a candidate for FIREFIGHTER for the City of New Rochelle, you must appear IN PERSON AT THE CITY HALL LOCATION WITH PROPER PHOTO I.D. AND DOCUMENTATION TO PROVE RESIDENCY. NO APPLICATIONS WILL BE ACCEPTED THROUGH THE MAIL. IT WILL BE RETURNED TO YOU AND WILL NOT BE ACCEPTED UNLESS YOU APPEAR IN THE CIVIL SERVICE OFFICE PRIOR TO THE CLOSE OF THE APPLICATION PERIOD. You may obtain an application by sending a stamped legal sized self-addressed envelope to the New Rochelle Civil Service Office, City Hall, 515 North Avenue, New Rochelle, New York 10801. You may also pick up an application at any of the locations listed below: Yes their is no online "application" they want it filled out in your own hand. 2) You know how I found out, I went to the city website and looked at the actual announcement, It says it for all to see. Again a little bit more effort than just looking at the modified version on EMTBravo. It also gives test suggestions. 3) Again from the NR website: APPLYING FOR CIVIL SERVICE EXAMINATIONS IN MULTIPLE JURISDICTIONS WHEN EXAMINATIONS ARE SCHEDULED ON THE SAME DATE: If you have applied for any other civil service examination for employment with New York State or any other local government jurisdiction, you must make arrangements to take all the examinations at one test site. If you have applied for both STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT EXAMINATIONS, you must make arrangements to take all your examinations at the STATE examination center. If you have applied for other local government examinations, call or write to each Civil Service agency to make arrangements. You must make your request for these arrangements no later than three weeks before the date of the examination. You must notify all local government civil service agencies with which you have filed an application of the test site at which you wish to take your examination(s). For this examination, call (914) 654-2171 or write to New Rochelle Civil Service Commission at the address on page 1. 4) from the website: RESIDENCY REQUIREMENTS: Candidates must be legal residents of Westchester County for at least three continuous months immediately preceding the date of the written examination and continuously through date of appointment. Preference in appointment WILL be given to successful candidates who have been legal residents of the City of New Rochelle for at least three months immediately preceding the date of the written examination and continuously through date of appointment. A CANDIDATES RESIDENCY WILL BE INVESTIGATED AND VERIFIED BEFORE APPOINTMENT. That explains it. And its not "They know who they want to hire, but they still want those donations from suburban kids looking to get hired." Also from the website: The application and appointment procedure has been prepared in accordance with terms of proposed consent judgments in the cases of Vulcan Society, et al, vs. Fire Department, et al., and United States vs. New York State Civil Service Commission, et al., in Federal District Court, So. District of New York. You want to be a firefighter, show some initiative. I got all this info in 10 minutes from the city's website with no "inside knowledge" of the job.

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Your entire post was Spot on, with one exception, the sentence above. Paid chauffeurs also hide the problem. Wow look how fast the FD got on scene but still no one to take care of the problem. And as you said full time staffing is not financially viable based on the call volume. And many of these VFD's are doing no better at night. When their are 2, 3 , 4 departments in town.....consolidate. then not everyone is trying to staff 2 engines and a truck and rescue. Then if needed add a paid company to handle all the BS that is a problem. Then and only then if you need to go fully paid, you can do it with fewer rigs covering a larger area and it becomes cost effective.

Thank you. And how many are actual fires?