Bnechis

30 to 60 days after the bid goes out

No one knows

Because 98% of the departments in the county do not have enough foam. Do the calculations on the new ethanol blends and you find the you need 100's of gallons of concentrate.

Funny, we wanted trailers but could not afford them, so we went with the tents. NYC did both. Most places have found while the tents are cheaper, they take more manpower to operate and they do not process as many people per hour.

I believe he meant deployed out to agencies as opposed to being centrally located with no personnel to operate them. How many of the 5 NYS Decon Trailers that Westchester got and were to be deployed to different areas are still deployed? I know one was refused by the 5 depts. in its town. Another was returned. If they are still at DES they are of no use without a dozen or more trained members per unit.

Sorry, Yes it AR-AFFF 1/3

AFFF 1/3 Universal Gold

Agreed and sadly its more likely that fire depts. will consolidate (if ever) before schools and that's because: "I don't want my kid going to the same school as _______"

Remember while its the same name, they have different owners. Also they had a great opportunity to bring the lead designer in who previously ran LTI and then Crimson (Spartan ERV).

Only if the current ticket revenue is more than the cost for the police dept. If you take the PD funding out of the local government (saving millions) and you do not get to keep any of the ticket revenue (costing thousands) how is this a financial burden on local government?

I call Bull S**T It is defined, Lets start with OSHA 2in 2ot requires 4 interior plus IC & pump operator to go in and save property. If you can not do this 100% of the calls you are sub standard. I do not care how "happy" the town is. Next its defined by NFPA standard 1710 which requires career depts. to but an engine with 3/1 on scene in 4 minutes 90% of the time and the remainder of the 1st alarm (min of 16ff) in 8 minutes 90% of the time. And for those that want to start the we don't need to follow the 1710 standard because we are not career. The NYS Insurance commissioner last year approved the new ISO standard which measures ALL departments based on 1710. So the "town" is happy and it does not meet this? If more than 10 people in the entire town knows about it I'd be stunned. What about the ISO standard that requires a minimum of 2 engines and 1 ladder or service company on all fire calls? Again does anyone in town even know this? How many citizens and politicians believe the fire departments web site that claims we have 200+ members? I must be safe look at how many they have..... How many happy citizens listen to 60 control tone out: "any available members on the 3rd dispatch" ? Most are happy because they either do not think they will ever need it or because they believe the FD is capable of doing a good job. What about the ISO

I suspect this had very little to do with it. They had been around for 40 years, long before homeland security. Their biggest sales were for chiefs cars and EMS fly cars, which were rarely funded thru HS. This is a sector that has huge cash flow issues, they have to layout the cash for the vehicle, all of the components and the labor and then they don't get paid until 30 days after delivery (most governmental contracts). And the margins are not high.

Thanks. I actual 1st wrote it as part of a consolidation study 5 years ago (before the cap was passed), warning depts. that the cap was coming and it would force this.

Current fire station design standards are 14' x 14' doors, 24' high bays and floors that can handle a minimum of 80,000 in every bay also drive up costs.

Even so, 5 BC & a DC 5 trucks & 2 USARs Something else was going on at this incident

Department A send 16 passenger bus to the fire training center for a FF1 class. 6 guys just throw 6 scba's and an assortment of tools into the walkway between the rows of seats. On the way the bus has a terrible accident and the unsecured tools fly all over the interior of the bus hitting the members. What would OSHA and NIOSH say to this act? Maybe They should have a caged cargo area in the back or a policy that NO equipment be carried unsecured. Now haw many departments have sent out this message: "Working fire - Additional manpower is needed" And a dozen additional private vehicles show up parked along the road leading to the scene. When they all go home, what if their is another call, what if they pass a car fire, what if????? How do you defend when the fire in your district gets 1 engine and the other 2, 3 or 4 don't roll, because you no longer have the staffing? But the get replaced because we have to keep up the fleet.

No I am not suggesting we all go out and buy these. My point was there are times when it makes sense to use vehicles other than engines for transport. that's all.

I guess it is not possible to build vehicles for transporting firefighters and their equipment then? Thanks for the post, I never realized how many different designs for crew transport their were, I only considered a van or suburban. Now I need to go get a picture of NRFD's 2300 passenger van (that we use for transporting relief crews to fires) I cant find any pictures of it.

Not going there

To meet the current energy code you need 2x6 Studs for single family if you are using fiberglass insulation.

Consolidation.............................

Actually it was designed to work at a snails pace. The founding fathers wanted committee's and debate and time to consider the ramifications.

so about 3% of all engines in the county were committed to this fire, But 50% of the tankers were committed. Tells me we have way to many engines, and too few tankers

Its not being mum. He took $20,000,000 last year and got away with it so he figured he could get away with $50,000,000 this year. That's not being mum....its speaking volumes.