Bnechis

300 Years is about right...see pic: Sorry I wanted a pic of just the space craft (without the production crew).

We have a lot of politicians that think this way. Why send 2 engines and 2 ladders to a fire call, when most of the time its not a "real" fire. Why not just send 1 guy in a car and save the fuel, if it is a real fire he can just call for the rest of the trucks. On the same note, we do not really need a fire dept. just the 1 guy, we can save lots of money, he can handle it and if its bigger than that oh well, they have insurance.

35ppm is very conservative to be on air. cosidering that the short term exposure level (STEL) is 200. If you do not let them reoccupy till its below 9 how do you deal with any industrial facility that the law allows them to have workers at 50ppm (current OSHA limit) 8 hours per day?

Yes it is a lot, But Not knowing the needs/wants of the project it is hard to judge it. 3-4 years ago I was tasked with pricing out a replacment vs. referbing an existing house and at that time I was able to price a 3 bay (double deep) 2 story station with living quarters and assorted workspaces for between $5 and $6 million not including land (which was estimated between $0.8 and $1.1 million). This would not have been a main station and most likely did not have the same level of finnish, but still almost 1/2 the cost.

Without symptoms: we send a single engine company With symptoms: 2 engines, 2 ladders, 1 DC and 1 (or more ambulances based on number of potetial patients). One must consider that if we find high levels of CO (IDLH), then 29CFR1910.134 or more commonly known as 2in / 2out must be followed, this the need for additional personnel. If CO levels are high and there are symptoms, it is not uncommon to find multiple victims and have to do a rapid search to ensure that no one is left in the space. As was previously stated most of these calls (with no symptoms) are alarm system issues and not co issues and one company with proper training and meters can safely confirm this.

One thing I have learned here is that you can not fix the staffing issues if you believe that fire response with 1, 2, 3 members per rig or multiple tones then coverage with mutual aid is acceptable and does not violate laws, standards or the oath many firefighters took that they would protect the public.

Shhhhhh. maybe the public wont notice and we can keep the hundreds of unmanned or undermanned rigs, because its clearly not about the public but about us.

Then maybe they should develop a plan instead of toning out multiple times before going to mutual aid. How many rigs does SFD have? Call the next due unit if you have other rigs (not mutual aid) 1st - If they keep crying wolf, you need to have a plan to resolve it. just saying screw it is not a plan. Particularly with CO, since it can come and go and sometimes is very hard to find the source. 2nd - The call had a chief onsceen with readings and they still needed M/A to get 1 engine. >>> Originally came in as an automatic CO Alarm. 2443 signed on and got o/s and reported readings at the door. An engine and the ambulance were requested, 80B2 responded, engine was not successful, Katonah FD was requested M/A 1 engine. Units remained on scene for 1 hour and a 1/2. <<<

In NYS we have 3 different systems of public fire representation (there are a few hybreds, but thats not the norm): Fire Protection Districts Fire Districts Municipal Fire Depts All can be made up of 100% volunteer, combination or 100% career. Fire Protection districts are often private not for profit corp. that are contracted and generally there is almost no public input (take the contract or leave it is about all). They also often do not give the public much info on how they are run. Fire Distrcits have a publicly ellected board of commissioners and they are only responsible for the FD Municipal Depts are overseen by local mayor/manager and city/village council. Cogs your debate appears to be that you want something closer to our fire district model and the proposal is more of the municipal model. From what I have seen in NY there is no real difference in the level of public input between the two and little difference in the performance between the two. There are good ones and bad ones. The public rarely participates with the districts (thus most commissioners end up being insiders or anti tax members) and the public rarely comments on the municipal dept ops (to the mayor/manager/council). If this proposal goes thru, the public will still be represented by the Mayor and the financial and other boards. Is this so bad? If it does not go thru, and as you put it the financial board has already said no to the money for a 2nd paid "vol" dept., then your left with the same situation you have now (which no one appears to be happy with) until the financial board changes its mind or the next charter revision. Based on this, is it really the public who would benefit from having a bigger say (if they really care to get a bigger say) or is this really about protecting the Stamford VFD view of the world? Most importantly, how can the public decide what is in there best interest when there are so many facts being misheld.

"this new mobile application allows authorized personnel to use tablets and smartphones as "virtual radios." How do you control "authorized"? I can see hacking issues with this.

Nice idea, But that just changes it from car chase to a marine incident.

It is a fire safety/all hazards house for training the public.

While the W.P. Tank flew, it was not a BLEVE. It was a mechanical tank rupture followed by ignition.

Unpainted, White, Blue, Red, Green & Orange....your right it mens nothing to the rest of us............

Maybe depts. should not be using equipment that is not intrinsically safe This is a rather simplistic concept and has killed firefighters who did not understand the concept of BLEVE or the flows required to prevent it (in cases that are preventable).

0.55 to 0.7 depending on the mix (note natural gas is not one gas, but a blend of them). Many years ago we did the math on a 25 lb (BBQ) cylinder and determined it had the equivilance on a number of sticks of dynamite. I do not remember the formula, but was shocked that it could also wipe out a home (and home many home owners know it).

1) I did not claim they were owned or not owned by the municipality....YOU did...and I asked you to site your source...So I am still waiting for you to prove your theory is valid. 2) You nor I said anything about career vs. volunteer...but what about combination depts.? I now many combo's that the station is owned by the municipality and it was owned and built before they hired career and career depts. that the stations were always municipal even back when they were 100% volunteer.. They include Eastchester, Fairview, Harrison, Hartsdale, Greenville, Larchmont, Mamaroneck (town), Mt.Vernon, Mohegan, New Rochelle, Peekskill, Pelham, Pelham Manor, Portchester, Rye, Rye Brook, Scarsdale, White Plains, Yonkers. Some of the 100% volunteer depts. i believe have municipal owned buildings: Ardsley, Armonk, Briarcliff, Croton, Irvington, Mamaroneck (Village), Millwood, Ossining, Purchase, Somers, Tarrytown and Yorktown. Now in Westchester that alone is more than 50% of the depts. In studying 6 depts in Dutchess (1 career, 2 combo and 3 volunteer) all were municipally owned. 3) If it is a fire district that owns the building then it is government owned. If owned by a fire company then in most cases it is not.

WRaftery

They will debat it on the 12th. They vote for or against it at the legislative meeting on the 18th.

In "most cases"? can you site your source on this or is this just your experience in your area? And in this case they made it clear they are municipally owned buildings

Just do not bring it to a gun fight, the locals are well armed and not afraid to shoot at armed LEO's....much less halligan swinging FF's.

There is more than 1. The one in NR is DOA If you pump into the system you will contaminate the drinking water system. The DOH would never allow it

They do not have an operating cert for Westchester. That still allows them to begin or end a transport in Westchester as long as the other end is in a region they have a cert for.

From: Planning Section Chief To: Safety Officer Via: Finance Section Chief Bill, the finance officer said if we used half of our fuel driving the 384 miles to your rehab site, we will not be able to afford (without FEMA assistance) the remaining 1091 miles. I understand that as the safety officer your concern is keeping us out of the hot zone, but I think operating from GA is a little too "defensive".

It is only a problem if you forget to wrap it in bacon. And if it was a problem so is the shrimp (with or without the bacon).