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The legislators have nothing to due with the code. Its on the administration side, done by the State Codes Council the International Codes Council and the Gov. Not likely that one incident will change anything

Not required by NYS code

Agreed, however if replacing the rig, we found cost savings over strobe, but not over halogen. More important we found major savings in the fleet as we went LED on replacement bulbs.

We just rolled out E.F.A.S. & SIMS II EFAS is electronic firefighter accountability system - It allows the CP to see what radios are on-scene, who is talking, signal radios to evacuate (and have them confirm who received it), do PAR check (and track who confirmed) and track maydays. Can also tell you if a radio battery is dying, or the radio has turned off or changed channels. SIMS II (on Scott SCBA) - allows the CP to see how much air each member has, where they are operating & assignment (i.e. floor above, venting team), status of pass alarm, advise member that CP received Pass alarm activation, can signal SCBA to evacuate (and have them confirm who received it), Evacuation signal can be individual SCBA, an assignment or everyone.

Well said. The other issue, particularly in smaller depts. is calling enough (Trained) personnel to the scene, accountability (which too many think toe tags cover) and discipline (no free lancing and company integrity). Way too often, depts. are so short staffed at incidents that if something goes wrong, they have no one left to cover the problem.

Sad to say that's more often the norm in way to many FD's.

The following video shows Bloomfield Police Department's Acting Police Chief James Behre speaking at a council meeting. Acting Chief Behre lays out a history of Councilman Carlos Bernard asking for favors including ticket fixing, favorable treatment for Hispanic officers, and violating the chain of command by contacting officers directly with assignments. Less than 48 hours later, Acting Chief Behre was placed on administrative leave. http://www.njlawman.com/police-blog/046-acting-captain-addresses-council.htm

Its a foam tanker, which does require some additional items beyond a regular water tanker. But yes that's high, I would think its double the price.

Also, hopefully the voters will take notice and replace those that are creating this situation. And if and laws are being violated, hopefully the state AG &/or the county prosecutors office will make an example of this.

What makes this any better or worst than the wing plows that NYS DOT uses?

Good news, but where is he going to get the $59 million to do it?

At home watching the action on YouTube!

Steam is 212 degrees + Ice 32 degrees = Water (de-thawed) When the hoses are frozen solid on the hydrant and you want to remove them after the fire, they need thawing. Also works well removing them from the ground and spray covered ladders/towers that can not be bedded, etc. Great tool.

http://www.lohud.com/article/20140213/NEWS02/302130065 This explains it

ROFLMAO. The water company maintaining the hydrants........... They do not do the basic maintenance that the maintenance standards require and you think they will clear them.

1. Yes. My fingers were not typing what I was thinking 2. Generally yes. But I know a lot of places that have done it without an engineer. 3. I AGREE!!! I don't understand either, but I see many FD's that do not put any effort into water supply. & then they complain when they have a fire and they have no or poor water.

One that comes to work with a monogramed brief case.

Ok, so this is what I have learned; Any community can get dry hydrants into the reservoirs, at the communities expense. The require an engineer to design it. and DEC will issue a revocable 5 year permit. While their is a lot of hoops to jump through, is it not worth it to protect the community?

Interesting variation on the "Rural Hitch". The "Rural Hitch" is usually used as a great initial attack tool. Very useful with very large nurse tankers (6,000 - 8,000 gal) and also very useful where a small engine or even a manifold unit drops line up narrow lanes to make an attack. Dave, what is the minimum gpm you can maintain with this arraignment (for 2 - 3 hours)? The downfall with using multiple siamese set up like this is it is very hard to increase the fire flow or in some cases maintain it for long periods.

Thanks Bill. My question was does any other district have them in the DEC system? I know they are allowed in reservoirs, just don't know if they are allowed in DEC ones. Also, their are other ways to get at that water without vehicle access.

The water that is flowing thru the pump (from the hydrant to the tank) does the refill automatically the moment you throttle down (because your not actively filling a tanker). The recirculating line can be a small hand line, so not much water used there, it just helps maintain prime. An alternative would be an automatic air primer, to maintain the prime (and allow more water to be pumped to the tanker. An alternative method is to hook the hydrant to the dump tank only and simply draft.

There are a number of ways to access it, but the 1st question is do they allow it? Does anybody else have dry hydrants in NYC watershed?

1) correct, while that's easier to set up you are limited to 500-1,000 gal (vs. 3,000). Well done. 2) That's pretty standard to set up for 2, usually with a little more distance, but that depends on the layout of the fill site. It is better to not start the 2nd one, till the 1st is done. When you calculate the times over a series of fills, its actually slightly slower. 3) You do not need to build the river, but dry hydrants can be 100+ Feet from the water. And in this case, NFPA & ISO standards for developing water supplies is what most depts. without hydrants fail at. Maybe they should consider reading. 4) You read it correct. They don't draft, they use hydraulics to push the water. But what do they know.

Even on a good hydrant, it is sometimes difficult to maintain the flow needed to fill 2 tankers at once. Since the minimum fill rate is 1,000gpm (NFPA) most engines will fill one tanker as the other is hooking up and not start to fill the 2nd tanker until you complete the 1st fill. Then fill it while the 1st is disconnecting. Another alternative (particularly for a poor hydrant) is to hook up to the hydrant with 1 length of hard suction to the steamer valve, then add hard suction to the other steamer valve (on the opposite side of the engine and place it with a low level strainer in a folding tank, then open the hydrant, The water will flow from the hydrant thru the pump into the tank and fill the tank. Pull a draft, then start filling tankers. Make sure you place a recirculating line in the folding tank. When you are filling tankers you will be drawing from both the hydrant and the folding tank, when you are between tankers, the folding tank will automatically refill.

Yes!! Train till you do not need to think about it, but you can spend hours improving or just reinforcing the same poor concepts. Too many places do not try to improve their water transport, "they way we have done it is best, why change". I have watched depts. in other regions (& in other countries) run circles around us. 1 engine, 150 vertical lift from a bridge to a canal. then 2000 gpm delivered 1 mile from the unit (and it was cheaper than the standard American pumper). total manpower 3 ff. And they picked up the 5,400' of hose mechanically. Agreed, their are many code issues to help us and adding cisterns or other water sources is a big one. But the minimum size required to get insurance credit is 30,000 gal., if your within 1,000 feet of that in a development, its counted as a full hydrant system. Anything less get no credit. And overtime the cost will be covered by the insurance discount.