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"If bravery is a quality which knows no fear, then I have never seen a brave mam. For the courageous man is the man who, in spite of his fear, forces himself to carrry on" - General Douglas MacArthur My Deepest Sympathies to the Joyce Family and our Brothers of the YFD on this terrible loss. RIP Patrick, God and your brothers will watch over your family.

The law does not have a time frame other than, that many must be onscene BEFORE any members can enter the structure (unless their is a confirmed life in jeopardy) The biggest OSHA issues with SCBA, include; facial hair, annual fit testing (with records), medical clearance, 2in 2out, training, maintenance, training and sops for everything. The respiratory standard is the single most critical one. I dont think you will see PESH showing up for the rope one, until a failure with injury or death (and then they look at everything). I would bet that 99% of depts that already bought equipment and deployed it still did not do a risk assessment 1st (at least not to the standard).

What was the number 1 serious violation that was issued? It was failure to meet the 2in - 2 out standard as required by law. How big a deal could this be? Since the law (29CFR1910.134) that requires 2in/2out goes into effect in an IDLH environment, that may mean that incipient fires do not meet the level (but one must still arrive at the scene with enough personnel to meet the standard). If a dept. (career, combo or vol.) can not place 5-6 members at the scene of a working structure fire to meet the standard, then they are not a fire dept. I have written before on how depts don't meet NFPA 1710 (minimum of 16 ff's/off's to a residential fire) and ISO (12+1 career - 36+1 volunteer) but how sad is this that the State of New York claims that LMFD can not put 5 interior firefighters at the scene of an actual fire. How many depts in Westchester are in the same boat? I can think of a number of depts. Now what is the leadership going to do about it? Since LMFD is a district, it means that 5 commissioners swore an oath that they would protect the community, now if they can not guarantee a response that meets this minimum standard, then they need to reevaluate the entire dept. and they have a legal obligation to their employees (which under law includes the volunteers).

How many other depts. are also in violation of labor laws? I can think of a number in westchester.

NYS building code only allows alum. foil or zip lock bags

Well said. We will never forget

That will not be known until after the project is done and one can determine if its a win or a loss. NR has Trump and Avalon, both with very well off populations and we are there almost everyday. Avalon's call volume is now #1 location in the city, even its EMS calls have passed the EMS calls to nursing homes. Dont hold your breath, the equipment needed to be purchased will far exceed what developers have traditionally given. This assumes that 1) there will be a bumb (NR has yet to see one) and 2) the administration is willing to spend it on the FD

Day 1 was EXCELLENT Thanks Seth for posting the info, we would not have known about it without EMTBravo. And Stiloskis can not be thanked enough for sponsoring this course

Is it politically correct to talk about not being able to get it up?

Their is a civil service title of Fire Chief, but Mt. Vernon has not had one in over 25 years. Mt Vernon has Deputy Chiefs (civil service) and one is appointed as operations chief. He gets about $1,200 per year extra, hardly worth it. City's in NYS have agency heads that are appointed "civilians" and have the title "commissioner" this is not the same as elected "fire commissioners in a fire district. A fire chief is a civil service position. Most city's that have fire commissioners also have either a chief of operations or a fire chief, in some cases (2301) they hold both titles. Lohud listed that, but I am not sure if that can be done under civil service law.

As bad as thouse were, this was worst.

Mark didnt you teach me it was: 'push mic button, then talk, then release mic button' then throw brick (radio) down flight of stairs so we could get one of the "new" GE's?

Sorry, you are over qualified.

He did not retire

Great Point So far, just on this thread I count 62 (I counted combi tool onlys as !/2) systems and more than 1/2 the depts are not listed. At an average of $30,000 per set Thats $1,860,000 in tools plus all the "extras" to work them and in some cases the vehicles.

Yes take care of your self, that means do not get ejected or thrown around the rig. I think many of the popsts in this thread are the reason we have the electronic babysitter...to many FF's cant or wont take care of themselves or their brothers. Then the driver and officer have a 200 Ibs projectile behind their heads waiting to kill them. And your family mayl sue them if you get killed, because of their negligence. Look at the case in Waterbury, and its not the 1st one. And you question why we need an electronic babysitter. If this were true we would never need any officers, just let every member make every decision for themselves.

1) The new "black box" can tell if you put your weight back into the seat before or after you buckle the belt. If you buckle it 1st it will scream all the way to the call. 2) The new "black box" will document if you were wearing it when (not if) the accident occurs. If the dept has any policy/procedure, sop that requires seatbelts, the dept has some options at that point: If you are career....The department can legaly refuse to pay the depts portion of your pension. If on probation: Fired, no medical nothing...thanks for nothing. If volunteer....you may dropped from the dept. 3) if you injury anyone else because you are thrown against them, they can sue you, the driver and the officer who failed to supervise you.

The problem with that, is it will catch up to you in court and ruin your day. The FDSOA has a lawyer who talks about it and says hes making a fine living off stupid stuff like this. Any chief who allows members to damage dept. property and not address it is very foolish. Not recomandations, because all manufacturers are putting it in (or another version of the one shown) and charging you for them.

New Rochelle has full set of tools on L-12 & L-13, There will be 2 full sets on the new R-4 (one on current unit) and a combi tool on E-25

Lots of roof work. Also the count of engines was a little lite. GFD - 1 eng. (2nd engine was sent later) HFD - 1 eng FFD - 1 eng WPFD - 1 eng NRFD - 1 eng Ladders - GFD, YFD, SFD, EFD Covering GFD: PFD Eng, NRFD Ladder & I think and other Eng.

No blue lights Chris the ISO standard is 12 + 1. The NFPA Standard is 3ff+1off on each rig. 1st due engine onscene in 6min (1min dispatch handling, 1min turnout, 4 minute drive) and a minimum of 15-16 ff/off (total onscene) in an additional 4min FDNY & Yonkers are the only ones meeting NFPA south of Albany (I do not know if they do). The ISO numbers can be suplemented by volunteers: Career: Eastchester Mt Vernon New Rochelle White Plains Yonkers All have enough to meet ISO's 12+1 if they want to. Some would have to send most of the onduty fleet to do it. Primary Career: Fairview - 9 onduty Greenville - 8 onduty + 3-4 Autoaid (Hartsdale) and Fire Chief (they are close) Hartsdale - 8 onduty + 3-4 Autoaid (greenville) Scarsdale - 9 onduty Generally these depts need 3 additional volunteers responding on all calls for each position that they are short of. that would mean 3 - 12. Primary Volunteer (some might debate which catagory, but these are depts that generally have less than 1/2 the numbers of career needed under ISO): Harrison - 3 career, need a chief and 28 volunteers on every fire call Larchmont - 3 career, need a chief and 28 volunteers on every fire call Mamaroneck (Town) - 2-3 career, need a chief and 28-31 volunteers on every fire call Mohegan - I do not know how many career are dispatched Peekskill - I do not know how many career are dispatched Pelham - 3 career, need a chief and 28 volunteers on every fire call Pelham Manor - 3 career, need a chief and 28 volunteers on every fire call Port Chester - 2 career?, need a chief and 31 volunteers on every fire call Rye - 3 career, need a chief and 28 volunteers on every fire call Rye Brook - Good Question The all volunteer FD's need 36 plus a chief, not including members assigned to water supply/tanker ops. These numbers are from memory, it is possible some have changed. It is sad that 90% of the departments in this county can not meet a standard that has been around since fire horses and they will fight tooth and nail to prevent it. Most parts of the country and europe have all found that everyone is better protected after consolidation.

This summer

OM1 to dispatch....Suspicous boat the "half Moon" has been stopped and the captain says he is looking for a way to the pacific

Good looking study.....If you have any questions about it I know the authors

Chris, Its North Hudson Fire