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Thanks, it is considered a 4,000 Ibs crane. All ratings are based on the best angles and extension. Our spec required a minimum of 600 Ibs. working load (NFPA 1983 2 man load) at the lowest (worst) angle at 12 plus feet from the side of the vehicle (the actual rating is much greater). The boat, motor, fuel, all rescue equipment and the dolly (which is attached to it for deployment on land) is 400 Ibs. We are not publishing the exact rating. We will develop an SOP that gives the maximum working load based on angle and extension and we do not want members to know any other number than what is in the SOP. We expect it to be inservice by the middle of Dec.

Mark, go look at the recliner infront of your TV. Sit in it then press the "SEL" & "LAST" buttons at the same time. The frequency is on a need to know bases and you do not need to know!!! ROFLMAO

Its a 4x4 chassi for a tanker that is going to Maui HI. It was not in he building when I was there.

Yes its rated for people, as a gin pole. And other equipment, including a very large PPV fan will be stored on the roof.

Thats it before it was numbered U-95 and support services changed to dewatering unit Thanks

I was unable to upload the pic,will try again later U-91 is the mechanics truck U-92 is the dual wheel 4 door pick-up/tow vehicle

Dont you know? A dept with a chief who shows up, even if he is no longer chief. R-4 will arrive in NR on the 30th, but will go out to the dealer for about 5 days before coming home. It should be inservice around the middle of Dec.

NRFD has 2 former NYPD / NRPD ESU trucks, U-95 and R-54 U-95 has been the dewatering unit and will remain in service as the 2nd dewatering unit, along with the new U-96 R-54 is the collapse unit, with the arrival of the new R-4 in the next few weeks the current R-4 (91' Pierce) will become R-54 and the current R-54 (ESU truck) has been donated to the Farral Fund and will be donated to another FD. Normally the City of NR sells old equipment, but this time we thought it was the right thing to pass it along. The long term plan was always to have 2 dewatering units. They do not do a lot of calls, until a storm, then we get dozens if not hundreds of calls for them.

Thanks Chris. I do not know what BFD's rating is so this is very general. Dropping the engine (ISO requires a minimum of 2 on every fire response, but requires 3,500 gpm as the minimum dept pump capacity in most cases. Even if no drop in manning this can cause a drop of 1 ppe rank (8% insurance). The loss of a station, if it means the other engine will be more than 1.5 miles road distance will also prorate a drop based on the percentage that it is outside of the distance. Loss of all career means that the volunteers will need a minimum of 36 ff's & 1 IC on every fire call.

Same system all over europe. In Paris they are 100' apart, with offset on the opposite side so every 50' there is a hydrant. The FF's in the Paris Fire Brigade showed me that even in snow, all they do is drag there foot about 1 foot from the curb and they find them. Then they only need one 50' length of supply line, thats why they do not need hose beds. Also, the main reason is war. above ground hydrants can be damaged by artilary, bombs and building falling on them. Then the drinking water can be contaminated during the open flow from the damaged Hydrant. On a seperate note: nice red police vehicles with NFPA fear ends. lol Good thing its not London, NY (if there is one) lots of blue lights for EMTBravo comments.

I think its a critical issue for most volunteer agencies and a big 1st step. For Ditricts or Municipal services it is also critical to liability reduction. If a taxpayer in a fire (or EMS) district does not get a reasonable response then they can and should question what are my taxes paying for. If the district has a poor track record for coverage and the taxpayer sues this will all come out in court. i.e. So chief please tell the jury how many years the taxpayers have been paying for this service?.......and based on your dispatch records how many years has this been a problem? And when were you planning on doing something about it? To the Jury: "So Mrs. Smith who has been paying taxes to the district for the last 47 years and the district has been telling her just dial 911 and we will be right there. On the afternoon of her stroke, she lay on the floor as the ambulance sat in the station. No crew responded, 10 minutes, 20 minutes, 30 minutes....etc." The records showed this was a problem for the last 5-10 years and the record also shows it was discused many times by the officers, but nothing was ever done, but they still charged her taxes. How do you see this coming out in court? Good for SFD if they are willing to make this self evaluation and correction.

The HP engine spec I have (about 3 years old)shows that the dealer is responsable for the following: SUMMARY OF EQUIPMENT TO BE INSTALLED AND/OR PROVIDED A. Installed Equipment Required: • One (1) VHF Mobile Two Way Radio with Scan Function, Individual Handset, and Speakers. • One (1) Electronic Siren with Public Address System. • One (1) 800 Mhz Mobile Data Terminal (MDT) with Internal Mobile Two Way Data Radio, External Speaker and Printer. • Two (2) Electronic Protectors. B. Spare Equipment to be supplied: Equipment shall be supplied under "SPECIFIC EQUIPMENT REQUIREMENTS" complete with all required accessories, Installation Cables and Ancillary equipment. One "Spare Package" to include items #'s 1, 2, & 3, listed below. • One (1) VHF Mobile Two Way Radio. Complete • One (1) 800 Mhz MDT with Internal Mobile Two Way radio. External Speaker and Printer. Complete • One (1) Electronic Siren with Public Address System. Complete SPARES The spare equipment delineated in the “SUMMARY OF EQUIPMENT TO BE INSTALLED AND/OR PROVIDED”, Section B: “Spare Equipment”, shall be delivered to the Fire Departments Radio Repair Shop located at......

The FDNY spec includes a lot of extra parts, including 2 complete sets of spare glass (all around), radios, wheels & tires etc. Without "eguipment" rearmounts are currently right around $800,000 and Towers are running $1 to $1.2 without all of the FDNY parts. Even with volume discounts.

There is no such thing as a NYC CFR or EMT. All CFR and EMT's are certified by the NYS Department of Health and can work in all counties in NYS.

Saturday it was in the yard at Excelsiors and there is no ladder on the body.

George, we fought hard for this one and it was a great improvement. Interesting note with the new EPA requirements on diesel exhaust our newest rigs (E25, 30u1 and unknown about R-4) can not use these systems or it voids the warrenty on the engines. On the good note, they are so much cleaner, that its not the same issue.

A lot has changed in construction but very little has helped firefighters. Light weight trusses, wood I beams, "c" joists and more combustible interiors. The good thing is firefighters are more aware of the hazards.

While this is true for many states, in NYS what has happened since 1959 is that laws have been put into place requiring minimum training for career firefighters, minimum training for officers and testing for advancement. The requirements for volunteers are not much different today then in 1959. Pulling lines from deadloads insures you will have enough hose to get to the fire. Another common problem with preconnects is they often make it too easy for the driver to line them up with the front door and block out the truck. We prefer deadloads, as does FDNY and others.

George, I agree there has been a lot of change, both good and bad. I always understood the cabs were enclsoed for the above reason, until I went to the maryland fire museum. THey have a number of rigs from the 1930's & 1940's that were enclosed, the real question then, is why did we go to open cabs, then back to closed for urban rock attacks.

It is intended for highrise structures which are almost always type I or type II construction. Correct I do not think it would work for this, as the angle may not be correct, it would blace the crew at the top of the "chimney" and it maybe to short to get the job done, but to long to manuver it in a private dwelling. There are other tools to deal with these incidents.

Yes its not the same as crawling down a 1,200 degree hall and being incinerated. FDNY has lost a number of brave members from wind driven fires. FDNY along with NIST and others did a spectacular job of studying what was happening and how to overcome this deadly scenario and comments like this delay the implimentation of a life saving technique. The high rise nozzle has to be used as part of a coordinated attack and should only be used in very specific incidents.

The Highrise nozzle uses standard pressures for a stright 2 1/2in nozzle. Here it is (being used by NRFD & the FDNY FF who made them). It is more than just using a nozzle, members need to be retrained to understand the whole concept of wind driven fire and ventilation profiling.

Depends on the rescue, but in my experience rescues are much harder to "get right"

The career fire chiefs association has made arraingments to cover so all YFD members can attend.