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talked with a member...it's a sheet rock hook....

 
I believe it is some type of forcible entry tool.

Anybody have any pics of the Yonkers Oshkosh DPW trucks?Would love to see them,Yonkers had a large fleet of Oshkosh dump trucks also called "stripper trucks" used in coal mines as well as garbage trucks...all equipped with plow  hook ups...hope this Oshkosh goes to a good home..

As we approach Sept.11th.  let us not forget Keith Roma NYFP #2...and all the brothers and sisters..who gave all....god save the USA

For your information he was a member of the IAFF local I-26...dues paying member....not remembered by them also.... since the Fire Patrol pre dates the paid FDNY...and it was on the recommendation of the Board of Fire Underwriters that a paid dept be formed...given all this,the courtesy could have been extended...and should have been.Not only my opinion  but also of many others....

My opinion.
 
It seems when it comes to this incident and numbers, people seem seem to get stuck with certain numbers. Not picking anyone out of the crowd, it seems everybody does it.

Take the Cops. There were 60 cops LODD. But, that is not how anyone usually refers to the numbers. They will usually say 23 NYPD LODD and 37 PA NY/NJ LODD. How often do you hear someone say 60 cops were killed? Rarely will anyone reference the "60" number.  It is almost always broken down by Department.
 
I do not know why people tend to break down the numbers that way, but they do. They have, it seems, almost from 9/11 itself.
 
Let the number "343" stand if you want the number to refer to the number of FDNY LODD.

But, if you are going to reference the number of firefighters LODD, that number should be "344".
 
 
 


 

He will always be #344 to me also, despite never having met him (or anyone from the patrol). The layoff/disbanding of the patrol was one of two things that lead me to switch my insert in my old department to a brown shield with our utility as the unit number. 

Thanks Alan for the change of heart...I agree with your post absolutely...even though the Patrol was not FDNY...It was on the recommendation of the Board of Fire Underwriters that a paid FD was needed....the Patrol pre-dates the FD by Many years...but that's all water under the bridge....life's too short to hold a grudge....Keith will always be "344".........Joe Krasko FPNY 1974-closing   

Revisiting this topic, from a discussion on another online platform. There were 8 EMS workers listed as KIA, 2 of them from FDNY are listed in the 343, the other 6 are not even though some of them were 9-1-1 providers and thus working under the command and control of FDNY. 1 was from an NYC VAC that responded. 
 
What was horrifying was that one poster in the conversation remembers treating a injured firefighter who had a 341 tattoo on his arm, because he was only counting the brother firefighters. He purposely left off the 2 FDNY EMS members. 
 
The lack of brotherhood has made me rethink my previous idea that there was no intentional effort to leave people off the list.

For your information he was a member of the IAFF local I-26...dues paying member....not remembered by them also.... since the Fire Patrol pre dates the paid FDNY...and it was on the recommendation of the Board of Fire Underwriters that a paid dept be formed...given all this,the courtesy could have been extended...and should have been.Not only my opinion  but also of many others....

I think FDNY also considered fire assist rescue team,until they realized it would be F.A.R.T......

I think FDNY also considered fire assist rescue team,until they realized it would be F.A.R.T......

join a hatzolah ambulance corps they run red lights 

Thanks Peter for the kind words....I understand what you and Alan are getting at....still I will rest when at least the official IAFF total is 344....try to see it from my point of view.....FDNY can do as it pleases but the IAFF is supposed to represent all members...

Some pictures of the Englewood Cliffs 9/11 Monument in front of the fire house dedicated to all killed in the attacks that day including 1 resident of the town As side note Englewood Cliffs sent the tower Ladder over to the city as part of a task force cover assignment 

Thanks Peter for the kind words....I understand what you and Alan are getting at....still I will rest when at least the official IAFF total is 344....try to see it from my point of view.....FDNY can do as it pleases but the IAFF is supposed to represent all members...

Frankly a dues paying member not getting the recognition he deserves is pretty disgraceful in my book. Rest assured FP Roma is remembered by this fireman

As we approach Sept.11th.  let us not forget Keith Roma NYFP #2...and all the brothers and sisters..who gave all....god save the USA

Thanks Peter for the kind words....I understand what you and Alan are getting at....still I will rest when at least the official IAFF total is 344....try to see it from my point of view.....FDNY can do as it pleases but the IAFF is supposed to represent all members...

As we approach Sept.11th.  let us not forget Keith Roma NYFP #2...and all the brothers and sisters..who gave all....god save the USA

The little king will have his way...the princess shall not stop him...but the voters might!

Hey, guys started seeing these trucks just sitting in front of the TBTA bridges (garage areas) just past the tolls... all lined up in an intimidating profile showcase... but all are empty and block the none new paint schema vehicles just behind in the garage areas...
 
NY Post has since resolved the "black helicopter" DHS theories... its just a pissing match with deBlasio
 
https://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20170224/midtown/state-vehicles-paint-colors-new-york-andrew-cuomo
 
But the suspicionless monitoring and tracking of all citizens who've committed no crime, are not suspected of committing a crime or under any reasonable amount of suspicion, are all now being tracked with the Governors "no tolling" plans:
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/cuomo-remove-toll-booths-hike-cops-mta-bridges-tunnels-article-1.2919406
 
http://www.ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/news/2017/02/15/exclusive--state-police-crack-down-on-toll-scofflaws-on-city-bridges-and-tunnels.html 
 
 
It's about revenue and how much they can steal from people....not about safety or security:
 
Cuomo said. “You’re now reading every license plate of everybody coming through that plaza.”
 
“We’re very serious about revenue collection,” said MTA Chair Tom Prendergast. “Just because you don’t go through toll booths, don’t think we don’t have your license plate and accounting of who owes the toll.”
 
Also next month, new laws to crack down on toll violators will go into effect. One suspends the vehicle registration of drivers who beats tolls three times in five years. Another law hikes toll violation penalties to $100 from $50. There will be an increased State Police presence at the crossings, with the agency adding 150 troopers to the force in January.
 
The goal is to get more drivers to give up privacy and to get more drivers using E-ZPass.....

The mayor refers to the money as "Taxpayer money"...the 2% money is tax money collected from the insurance industry...not the taxpayers of New York State....

The mayor refers to the money as "Taxpayer money"...the 2% money is tax money collected from the insurance industry...not the taxpayers of New York State....

Don't believe i would trust the state or the city to administer the funds what's your opinion???