<<Lets face it, Paid firemen are paid firemen...they get a paycheck every week. So since they are getting paid to do it, a rule like "No beards' makes sense...that is there career, they are getting paid to do it, and that is where they are getting all the health benefits etc from.>> OK? paychecks and beards? = relevance? I have read on countless occasions on these boards that Vol. and career are supposed to be the same. Is that convenient mantra or do we actually live (and in this case potentially die) by our words? I was under the impression that the funny looking device with the air bottle attached to it was the primary reason why the issue of facial hair is an issue. Unless certain departments are solely exterior and maintaining a distance outside of the effects of radiant heat, then the argument should have been self-explanatory. Facial hair = poor seal = products of combustion = lungs/face/and other = hyperbaric chamber, burn unit, or funeral.....easy right?