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Don't hold your breath! Communities will never open their eyes! Taxpayers care about two things and that's Police Protection and their Garbage being picked up cause God knows their house won't catch fire their neighbors will! So long as other Municipalities keep bailing each other out those that abuse M/A will continue to do it! BTW those that continue to respond on M/A and play in each others sandbox aren't helping their "Brothers" in a neighboring Community they're actually hurting them and helping the neighboring Municipalities Administration who don't have to hire more individuals and can even put apparatus oos cause hey what the hell Ill just utilize another Communities FD if there's a fire, right? Don't take it personal but the truth is Bnechis Dept. members whose Administration abuses M/A, don't want the help anyway from neighboring Depts.. Again your not helping them with their cause your only helping their Administration! Trust me!

While on this topic when is the "Emergency Escape Ladder" on a Tower Ladder ok to use for asending and/or descending from the bucket?

I love when there's a skeleton crew inside busting their hump overhauling and chasing hot spots only to see 3 to 4 fresh guys outside standingby for the inevitable. Yeah that makes sense! Get your RIT /FAST or whatever you want to call it asses inside and relieve the Brothers! Enough already!!

I have no problem giving people another chance but it also depends on the infractions. I don't think the Emergency Service Industry(FD PD EMS etc) should be the Professions wher those with Felonies are given this second chance either. Don't we owe it to the taxpayers paying our Salaries whom we took an oath to protect and are suppose to trust us? They deserve better don't they? This is what happens though when the Standards are lowered so nobody in the Vern should be surprised. Deal with it!

Bnechis wasn't the Court Order for a specific time frame until a quota was met and is probably now * and void or remains in effect forever?

Seems like the "Experiment" came back to bite them in the Ass! Guess they didn't think of the end result besides destroying the Profession! Oh Well!

Bnechis, one thing I could never understand is why they did away with the swimming portion of your test which I believe should be re-implemented for All Departments, especially yours! Every FF should know how to swim especially a Dept. adjacent to LI Sound. I don't believe it was a timed event either just prove you could swim a couple of laps I think in NRHS pool? Whatever happened to that requirement for your Dept.? Could anyone imagine a frantic Parent pleading with a so called Professional FF to save her drowning child only to have him/her say 'Maam I don't know how to swim". That would go over big!

No way in hell should any Dept should make the Physical any less challenging for woman. Are the physical demands going to be any less demanding at a Job? Enough already with this B/S and these f****** quotas. Peoples lives, both civilians and ffs are being jeopardized to satisfy a select few. Nor should the written be any less important then the Physical. No need for Braun over Brains folks you actually have to have a decent head on your shoulders also to accomplish the tasks of a ff. Anything less and people will die. FDMV actually had a woman yrs ago and where is she now? Give them the same frigging Physical and if they do well then give them the Job but can we please stop accomadating everybody! Why is it Civil Service always has to be the red headed stepchild when it comes to this nonsense.

Spot on! This usually falls on deaf ears to though unfortunately.

Just so long as a Yonkers life isn't lost due to one of those Companies being on M/A.. I'd be pretty pissed off if I lost a family member cause one of the 1st due fire companies was in another municipality who constantly abuses the s*** out of the Policy and works with a skeleton crew to cut down on OT!. BTW kudos to YFD for the grab and a great stop!

Absolutely right lad12derff. Mayor Davis feels the same way!

Absolutely! Those should be the first individuals FD's should be looking to hire like Boston FD did I believe a year or two ago.

We should not have to "dumb down" a Job to reach quotas, period! Municipalities should be looking for "Quality" not 'Quantity"! The Job is inherently dangerous enough why make it more so by hiring incompetent individuals who for the most part don't give a dam about the profession and are just there for a paycheck anyway let's face it! We're all suffering in the long run, especially the taxpayers these mopes took an oath to protect! The Fire Service has always been a Semi- Military Organization yet some Depts. lower their Standards less then what's required to join the Military and then want the place to be run as such. Yeah, OK!!! Keep frigging dreaming! These Depts. made their beds now let them sleep in them!!!!

Spot on!

No such thing as "Brotherhood" anymore Chief or at least it's not as prevalent as it was. Guys do nothing but stab each other in the back and turn a blind eye nowadays!

Peoples' houses? How about Station Locker Rooms? What a disgrace to the Profession!

A lot has to do with the way their Mommy and Daddy are bringing them up an Society as a whole. Everybody gets a trophy now so nobody's feelings are hurt. A lot of kids being born with a silver spoons in their mouths and feel they're owed everything.

Now isn't that the truth! Spot on Westchester!

To each is own. If it works great for you then keep with it. As far as the hydrant not being used across the street your absolutely right. No excuse for that that's a no brainer. Gotta be able to adapt to the situation at hand and yes your right if your hose beds are set up correctly you can do both. Wow, I can't believe we actually agreed on something Capt.. Lets leave it at that.

LMAO! Now that's some funny s*** right there! What's next my mother can beat up your mother? Oh and btw nobody ever said Bnechis wasn't a respected Officer. Im sure he is and good for him and his Dept.. All I did was post my thoughts on a topic and all of a sudden the daggers came out. Especially from folks who haven't been on here in awhile. WTF! I can't have an opinion on something without people criticizing my view points? I didn't throw the first stone and ill be damned if Im going to sit back and be made a fool of just because I see things differently. Not every Dept. follows the same protocol nor should they but at least respect another person's point of view!

Couldn't agree more! A lot of QTIPS on here lately! Can't take constructive criticism!

First of all Im not, nor did I ever advocate reducing manning or close companies . In fact I really don't know where that notion ever came from?. Whether I have 3 or 4 guys on a rig I personally believe a reverse lay is better, especially if you have 4 guys on an Engine. Drop all 3 off ifo the f/b and have the MPO take off to the hydrant and let him worry about the water supply as two guys are pulling hose and the Officer is being an Officer. I think this is a little more rational then having 1 guy hooking up to a hydrant why the Engine is down the block with one guy stretching and the Officer off and running and being an Officer like he's suppose to no?

Huh? And what are the 2nd and 3rd due Engines doing? Never heard anything so crazy! Better ask NIOSH what they would do.

Completely Wrong! Go to a Reverse Lay like FDNY everybody's Heroes on here. Let the MPO make the hydrant for God's sake especially if you have a 4 man Engine and let the Officer be an Officer and have 2 Back step men pull the hose. Not the 4th guy 100-250 ft down the street worry about water supply and then have to high tail it down to the fire building. WTF! It's common sense fellows! Maybe if you had the MPO at the Hydrant, Depts. wouldn't have to worry about the Hydrant Gremlins shutting off hydrants like they did to NRFD on I believe, Fountain Pl?

Nobody's lamenting over anything. How about doing a "Reverse Lay" like FDNY who everyone always makes reference to and praises and letting the MPO make the hydrant and having your 2nd backstep men, if you have the wishful thinking of 4 on a Rig, pull the hose and the Officer act as an Officer? No reason the MPO can't make the water supply, instead of having the 2nd back step man make the hydrant. Something tells me he'd be better off ifo the fire building stretching hose no? Or is doing a "Forward Lay" Job Security for some Depts. and that justifies 4 on a Rig?