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News12 is covering the story and has aired video of the wrecked T10. Like x635 said, the photos are out there in other ways, and now video as well...

Date: 4-9-04 Time: 2026 hrs. Location: 30 N. West St. X MacQuesten Pkwy South Frequency: 154.145, 453.000 Units: Description: Fire in a self-storage building Writer: DRD, Truck4 2028hrs- B-5 req. 2nd Alarm. Fire in a 3-story self storage building with heavy fire load. Fire venting thru roof. 2034hrs- NRFD TL-11 to cover Sta. 3. Co's forcing entry. Req. a line to roof. 2040hrs- B-5 rpts 1 L/S up TL to roof. (2) 1-3/4 lines in op. Co's have opened up roof. P/W/H. Fire contained to (2) storage units. 2053hrs- B-18 is 10-8, mutual aid released.

Laws Governing Radio Monitoring in New York State http://www.nf2g.com/scannist/nys_laws.html Take a look at A.2601 under Mobile Scanning. From what I understood from reading this section, the bill is still in committee and has not yet ammended the NYS Vehicle and Traffic Law.

It says on the exam announcement from the Journal News: This examination for Firefighters is being given in accordance with Federal Court Consent Decrees entered with the Vulcan Society, Westchester County, 73 CIV (ADS) & US Justice Department 80 CIV 0336 (ADS) & US Justice Department 80 CIV 0336 (ADS) I dont know anything about this or whether it has anything to do with this specific exam. I just copied what it said on the announcement. Perhaps somebody else knows more and can give us more background information. If it has nothing to do with why the examination is being given again, my mistake. I do know that the Vulcan Society is a fraternal organization of African-American Firefighters. Also according to the Journal News, members of the Vulcan Society consists of black paid firefighters who work in Mount Vernon, New Rochelle, White Plains and Yonkers.

E21, E24, TL11, L13 10-8 at the scene

That sounds about right. About 47 or so are the 75' mid-mounts.

FDNY has been steadily moving away from the 95' version. The majority of tis Tower Ladders, by a substantial margin, are 75'.

Thanks for the info...

Good pictures and audio as always... Question: In the audio, "jumping to the third alarm" What are the tones that are heard? Is Yonkers switching from the "telephone buttons" or is that from another frequency and got mixed in?

This is another area in which tradition will play a role in Westchester, both on the volunteer and career end. A quint can do both, and if you have the proper SOP to go along with it your at an advantage. But some department just dont, or cant, operate that way. For all you apparatus buffs, who has quints in Westchester? For the members in those dept's, does it work for you?? DRD

Its actually 61 +. I heard they are something like the fourt highest paid in the country, but the 115th busiest. Can someone confirm that or know the real numbers?

Great pics.. did anyone get any audio?

Whats an SP?

I am not certain about the damage to the regular R4 but I think you are correct in saying they are, at least temporarily, using the donated rig. The Spirit of Oklahoma is really a really nice piece of appratus.

For those of us who aren't familiar with the rig or its equipment, why was it called Ladder 43 if it had no aerial device? Anyone have a pic? Just curious... DRD

Thats interesting. I saw a picture of it in master streams at a fire and assumed it had a pump. Thanks for the info...

Chicago FD Squad Engines are everything in one. Engine/Pump, Rescue/Spec Ops and Truck/Articulating boom. Its an interesting concept. Not sure if I agree with it but i'm sure it gives the squad co. guys greater versatility when performing a wider variety of tasks. http://www.firegroundphotos.net/CFDS5A070201.jpg While were on the topic of naming conventions for apparatus, what is a squad to u? Does it depend on the personnel and how they are trained, the equipment on the rig, the apparatus itself, or SOP for their response. I always saw a typical squad to be exactly what FDNY runs. YHFD runs with that terrific Squad - E270. I think that qualifies as a Squad because from what I understand it carries a wide variety of engine/truck/rescue equipment. What makes a squad?

That's a lot of truck. A tiller?

FORGET THAT. I WANT TO GET THIS KID HOME SCHOOLING SO HE CAN LISTEN TO THE SCANNER ALL DAY, AND PUT UP INCIDENT ALERTS. LOL.

Is there any benefit to doing it like that, rather than "pager" tones like some career departments, like New Rochelle and Greenville have. Also, How does FDNY do it. I know they have MDT and can also get their runs over the air when in the apparatus, But how does the dispatcher notify units of a response when in qtrs?

I think this shows that ICS is better implemneted when services have been consolidated, like in the City of White Plains. A high rise fire is a considerable incident in which many units need to be coordinated. I think alsfirefighter is correct in that as the IC his primary function was to coordinate, and not necessartily command at large scale incidents. It does however take a good understanding of ICS to undersatand that this concept can work, but depends on a good working relationship between your operations people and your IC.

City of White Plains Public Safety organizes all emergency services under a single department. This includes Police, Fire, administration of services with private EMS as well as emergency management duties. From what I saw on the news, Public Safety 5 is a deputy commissioner. He was likley there to act as an interagency coordinator as well as a point of contact for the media and relief organizations. A link to the Department of Public Safety, City of White Plains is provided below. http://www.ci.white-plains.ny.us/safety/safety.htm Just to throw another question out there, how do people feel about this? PD, FIRE, EMS and OEM all under a single banner with one boss, the commisssioner of public safety. Do you agree with or oppose the idea of consolidation of services? I for one, agree with the concept. I have no first hand knowledge of this system, but I can see how this would be both more efficient and cost effective for the municipaility. This would also help with interagency coordination at major incidents by providing a unified chain of command from the onset. No bumping heads as to whose scene it is, b/c its everybody's scene. What do you think???

I dont believe that is necessarily so, DFFD. I think it has something to do with the height of the handrails on the ladder portion of either the ladder tower or tower ladder, if there is in fact a difference. Like it was said before, one is a an escape ladder, short handrails, and one is for ascending and descending, higher rails. Where the base happens to be mounted I dont think is of any significance. If I am wrong, please correct.... Also, would you call your truck co. apparatus Aerialscope 1 or Telesquirt 1, if it had no aerial "ladder" at all? DRD

New Rochelle sending a 1 and 1 to cover..? Fairview Ladder 1 also dispatched

mfc2257, I agree with you 100% on Anthonys Deli, it was #1 on my lunch list. Walters is also a terrific spot for a quick bite to eat. But, CRACKERBARREL... I have to disagree. No alcohol and all kinds of crazy antique crap everywhere. Not my style. Just jokin with you... DRD