Monty

Are all EMT Bravo'ers still on scene I heard there were a lot of trucks and departments down there. Surpised to get to the computer and not see any details ...... http://www.lohud.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section...20AVENUE%20FIRE

Here's another incident - maybe, possibly, hopefully with a better outcome: Chicago firefighter dive teams get called just prior to starting a training session and are on scene within 4 minutes. Within 3 minutes they found the boy who is now in Hospital. http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/907509%...S-boy22.article

Interesting document at http://www.usfa.dhs.gov/downloads/pdf/publ...ions/tr_166.pdf - pretty long but a quick skim looks like it has a lot of useful information.

On a whim, did a search to see who is testing in June. Most of the residence requirements are for the County, with many giving preference for city residence. Ithaca resident 1 month prior, starting at $33,147 Albany , residence 30 days prior to exam, starting $35,523. Schenectady Cty - Vil of Scotia resident 1 month prior to exam at $34,319 Utica EMT needed, residence at time of exam. Starting $32,929 Auburn 30 days residency prior to exam, $36,363 Oswego Resident of contiguous county 1 month prior to exam. Starting $34,721 Saratoga Resident 1 month prior to exam @ $30,500 St Lawrence resident 30 days prior to exam Tonawanda residency 3 months prior. Starting at $34,438 Steuben residence 4 months prior! $26,079 And of course Yonkers, but that has it's dedicated posting.

Actually, I think its better that the M/A request be turned down rather than accept it and not have the resources to meet the request. Too many times we talk about requesting M/A and 15 minutes later you get a truck with a probie and a 70 year old on it (speaking hypothetically) - its better to admit your limitations sooner than later, then maybe after the event talk about what you can and can't realistically provide.

http://greenwichct.virtualtownhall.net/Pub...efighterJob.pdf Closing date for application is June 6th. Written exam in September. Need CPAT before written exam. From what I saw, skimming through the packet, no residency requirement (unheard of in NY!). Starting salary of $47,819. Extra point credit for Ct or national fire certification in various topics. Do need Connecticut drivers license with a 'Q' endorsement 6 months from date of hire. No smoking or nicotine use once hired.

Slight deviation from the original title / article but interesting take on residency here. wonder how often the commission decides to 'suspend or reduce' the requirement? If you're interested, you have a couple of weeks to meet the requirements for residency prior to the 30 days preceding the examination date of June 14. From http://www.albanyny.org/_files/FireExam.pdf Also very reasonable salary, given the lower cost of living in Albany compared to the lower NY area (and starting salaries for most Westchester Departments ...)

In true EMTBravo tradition, swerving the discussion from the original topic ..... Agreed. I thought it was interesting that the initial report I heard was fully involved, 2 story building 30x30, then later someone else gave a report of fire on two sides. Never the less, it was good to hear something! Often it's just a 10-75 at so and so (or maybe working fire now in plain english) without any further sort of report given on the incident. It was also interesting to hear a unit (I believe 2261) respond from Valhalla with a 20 minute ETA.

I'm a bit late - but can we try and keep it on topic Lets forget the whole part about 15 minutes. I do have to agree with Chris though on the main point of running 'hot' when there is no emergency. I don't always like talking about how it used to be done at my old Department, but .... Line Officers had the authority (and were expected to use it) to cancel, or downgrade responding units. There are some departments in Westchester where you do hear them say to respond non-emergency - but it doesn't happen too often. How many times do you hear 'respond with caution'? What does that mean. Not quite so fast? I don't know if there are any departments where that means no lights / sirens. How about cover companies? How many respond 'hot' to those to stand by in someone else's quarters - just in case??? Now my personal opinion to the original question, pick one of these .... 1/ To get their kicks / adrenaline rush 2/ Because we've always done it this way 3/ Because we don't trust the person at the scene 4/ Because things might go wrong and we might be needed 5/ Because we're ignorant

Actually, having just taken this - I would say the biggest thing is the Exam Prep book. If you don't want to buy it, get a copy from the Academy Library. I'd suggest going in there the first break you get Friday if its not open when you first get there. One thing many of us did was waste a lot of time getting our lesson plans looking 'pretty'. Some smart people just hand wrote the lesson plans. Something to keep in mind when you get your home work. Another way we wasted a lot of time was with the 'Objectives' homework. Don't over analyze or complicate it KISS!!! Also, we had no choice on our presentations - so don't worry about that aspect. You don't need power point, or videos or anything but if you want to you can. Some people in the class just used an Overhead Projector, blackboard and flip pad. It is much more on the reasoning behind lesson plans and learning than the actual presentation and delivery. Listen to the instructors - they give a lot of good information and tips (at least they did to us). The final exam is pretty tough although we all passed, the exam prep booked helped me tremendously. Enjoy!!!

I got a pair of Pro-Tech 8 for Christmas and love 'em. Still plan on using them - how many pairs of gloves that others use would pass the current tests? From their home page: Now, if I had any real say on what our department purchased - I'd definitely go with their latest model:

So sad to hear of your accident. Thoughts and prayers for a speedy and recovery.

Thanks for setting me straight. As you say, to get hired you need to live in the city - then of course you can move out It also helps to be telepathic, because I think you need to be resident prior, or at the point of the announcement (hence the March 15th someone mentioned). This is very similar to White Plains, and probably Mt Vernon and New Rochelle. Fair - probably not, but that's the civil service

I hope you do well too. However, if you don't live in Yonkers and meet their residency requirements (prior to the test?) - then you might as well forget about getting in. From my understanding when I last took their test, they go through ALL their residents on the list before going to non-residents. I can understand credit for residency (as I believe FDNY does), eg an extra 5 points - but to go through all the residents, even if they get 1 before going to someone else with 100. Annoying to say the least

Don't know if it counts as 'out of the box' particularly but ... some years ago there was a trailer (as in tractor trailer semi) fire on I-787. It was going pretty good and was a supermarket truck full of general groceries. After trying to hack the trailer open from the roof, the sides, trying K-12's, piercing nozzles aA local wrecker was called. The winch was then used to pull out all the pallets on to the roadway. Then I think the DPW front loaders were used to clear the road once we were done. That was a fun call

For clarification, I believe this is talking about New York City Department of Environmental Protection. The water supply protectors of NYC .... not DEC / Encon

Watching the news the other night saw this incident where a car drove in to the Newtown Creek in Brooklyn. My impression was that the driver freed himself, and was extricated from the water by the FD/PD. However, it took two hours for them to recover the fatality. Not that I'm a diver - but makes me think its not worth 'expediting' my response to a car in the water call. http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=...&id=6065183 http://www2.nysun.com/article/74343 http://gothamist.com/2008/04/07/car_plunges_int.php Image below is from the gothamist web site

I saw the IA for the large gathering in Tarrytown. It involved 4 different Police Departments. I was just curious whether PD's use ICS/NIMS as much as the Fire Service does or does not for calls? I'd imagine that in a case like this being able to communicate and having multiple units working together effectively and being on the same page would make a big difference.

The OFPC Home Page has a new section on it listing all the outreach classes scheduled for April and May. It does seem to be a bit off though. It shows Westchester having Hazmat Tech, but I don't see that on the DES web pages. Regardless though, gives you a good idea of what's going on if you're looking to get training.

I think your best bet is to call OFPC in Albany (I did this a couple of years ago and it was a relatively painless process). Phone: (518) 474-6746 http://www.dos.state.ny.us/fire/firewww.html E-mail: fire@dos.state.ny.us

Interesting story in the Charleston Post & Courier which seems pretty well written. The photographer snapped a shot showing 2 FF's at the car fire without packs (and one with). The good thing is that the Chief and Safety Officer are talking seriously about safety. I know there are some here that disagree with the need to wear SCBA at car fires and prefers boots to bunkers but there are more and more LODD's being attributed to fire byproducts. It's a different world out there now. Hey, let's be careful out there as Sgt. Esterhaus would say Safety Officer Kleskie said:

Interesting story I was directed to at the AuburnPub.com. Interesting story - the comments are very interesting too .... (especially in light of some of the recent discussions).

From the secret list: Looks like there is a real desire to change for the better.

Surfing the net found this: http://jobsearch.usajobs.gov/getjob.asp?JobID=69820002 4 vacancies at West Point. However, you need to be certified FF 1 and FF 2, EMT-D and Hazmat Tech. Good Luck!!!

RIP. Thoughts go out to the family.