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Looks like it was running the roof pretty quickly. Does anyone know if it was Conventional Asphalt Shingles or Maybe Cedar Shingles ? From the looks of the pictures, I am guessing Cedar.

Well Deserved Tribute........ Nice find Kurt

YFD, thanks for the clarification. I will defer to your judgement and as I said before "I wasnt there" and am not an electrician. Looking at the set of pictures again, yeah there may not be secondary wires running pole to pole. Your explanation of the old Box Wires would explain that extra set in there that I assumed (remember, never assume) were secondaries. So the only contact would have been the cable and maybe that Box Wire which isnt the end of the world. This was in no way a shot at the guys in Yonkers by any means. just a discussion to keep the mind thinking. These guys have their work cut out for them with the tight streets and rig placement. And they do a good job at it. It looks like they did a good job at this fire as well. So, where are those pins anyway ?? Just kidding, lighten up FirNaTine.........

Anyone out there work for Con Ed or NYSEG that might clear this up ? There are actually 2 sets of power lines on a pole, Primary & Secondary. As far as I know and I am pretty sure I am correct, the top 3 wires (in the upper left) are PRIMARY Wires and can have 6,000 volts and higher in them. The secondary (House Service) is 120v. and is lower down on the pole. The Secondary (120v) line appears to be between the upper bundle of heavy black wires (Cable) and lower bundle (Telephone) and IS in contact with the boom.

I wasn't there but it certainly looks to me like a very dangerous situation with the wires. It "appears" like the Boom of the Tower is actually in contact with the 120 v Lines (mixed in with the cable/tel). And the primaries also seem wayyyyy too close to the Stick and the guys on it.

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I am curious as to how this will affect the morale and response of the EMS Providers where the Medics are stationed. In this Pilot they are looking at Medic 4 which is stationed at Patterson FHQ which is also the same station as the Patterson Bus is stationed. If this is the case, then there is no chance that Patterson Crew will ever get there in front of the ESA BLS Rig as a First Responder or to Transport. Other departments may have a chance of arriving at their own calls first, but this wont be the case in the departments where the Medic & BLS Crews and the Volunteer crews are stationed together. That being the case why would they even need to "Get out of bed at 3:00 AM" or ever for that matter ? I believe that if a Volunteer Rig gets to the scene regardless of if it is first or second in, then the transport should be turned over to the Volunteer Crew.

Love the video of the guy "Forcing" the door with the tool. No Thanks.......

Happy Birthday Brother. Me too........ I got ya by a few years though. Stay Safe

We were talking the other night about the use of ICE being programmed into your Cell Phone. Has anyone ever had the opportunity to use this at a call ?

I plugged it into my phone with my girlfriends Name, "I C E - Sue". Now everytime she calls the display come up with the ICE Entry instead of her personal entry. (I guess I comes before S). 2 entries in the address book now with the same number. Not the end of the world but a little annoying. Any way around that ? Or should I just start calling her ICE? Naah maybe thats a bad idea. Any Ideas?

Nice..... Go Check the first post on this thread (NYRangers30) If I read it correctly this is his first post ever on EMTBravo. Joined last month and finally got the nerve to jump into the fray and ask a question. He was most likely not around when "We discussed this before". Remember (as has been discussed before) Not everyone has been around forever and has 2500 posts and seen all previous posts. Way to make him feel like part of the team........... Welcome NYRangers30. It aint all bad here. OK Im done. Having a bad day.

Agree'd......... Plan B just in case.........

Care to share ?

ABSOLUTELY !! We teach this at FDIC in Indy in the Truck Vent Class. You would be surprised how easy it is to do and can actually be faster than using the blade end of the axe. When using the Flat Side there is little chance of the axe getting stuck after penetrating the roof material and having to wiggle and pull it back out and start again. This guy had good technique and when you get into the groove you can really cover some ground quickly. Next time you have a chance, give it a try. This of course will not work with a Pick Axe..........

Thanks Adam Was this just listed? I went to the website a few days back looking for something local but didnt see Somers. Maybe I missed it though, eyes going bad. I plan on attending

Don't remember exactly when, but a while back (20 + / - years ago) The Village of Mamaroneck FD made a grab using a Bangor I believe. If memory serves me it was down an alley where the victim was perched on a ledge on 3rd floor. Get this The victim was The Mayor I am pretty sure............ I bet they had no budget concerns that year. Anyone from VMFD out there to confirm ?

Used the Spreaders last year to free a Kitten that got stuck inside a cast iron Bird Bath Base......

The Rope and Caribiner is a way of getting out sure. Safely ? probably not. Will it work? Hopefully. Either system will require an anchor point of some sort. That part is the same. The difference is after bailing out maintaining control of the rope. The rope alone requires a wrap around your body then holding on with your hand to lower yourself down. The "Systems" have some sort of Descending device which usually is a hands off device which will lock you in until you are ready to lower yourself. When the crap in hitting the fan I would rather have a system that I don't have to wrap myself in and hold on to and hope I got it right. Set the hook and go......... With the Rope & beaner you need your hands to maintain control. What if your hands got burned and were not able to maintain the rope? In Jeff Cools seminar, it was discussed that one of the guys that went out the window in NYC, WAS on the end of a rope and Lost control and fell. Not sure if he was one who died or was gravely injured. But their (I say they, cause I wasn't there) opinion of the Rope & Beaner was "It doesn't work" (His Quote) In Short: If there's a better way to do it, then we should use it. Kinda the same reason that started wearing Bunker Pants instead of 3/4 boots. Its a safer way to go........

Much to my heated arguments and displeasure, the Chief of my department has taken the stance that the Rope (Rope) & Carabiner (System) that had been given to all Interior FF's is all that we need and that complies with the law. We even went to Jeff Cool's presentation last year (sending chills up my spine)and still nothing more than a rope and beaner. In my opinion the law & interpretations are way too loose and need to be tightened up to specify exactly what should be required.

PFD also working on replacing one of the Brush Rigs. The Brush Rig will be pretty straight forward and won't be put out to bid with arrival anticipated sometime in the spring.

Rest In Peace My Brother...... You were an asset to the entire EMS Community and your absence will be noticed. It was always a pleasure running into you in class or on a job or just around town. Smart, Eager, Fun, Witty. You will be sorely missed by all. Watch over us my friend.......................................

Thats Great, but a lot of us have not been here as long as you have and find this dialog interesting. As a matter of fact Seth sems to have interest too as he lit the candle on the thread. Unless you have some input, dont throw water on the fire. Just My Opinion

As far as a "Major Fire" is concerned, I keep a camera in the Glove Box of the 1st due Engine at all times. When pulling up on a scene of a Structure Fire, If possible, I try to snap off a few quick ones to capture the condition of the fire on our arrival. This can be later used in a critique or even aid the Fire Investigation Team in determining the cause. Point being, It is not a bad thing to have a camera on the rig. In My Own opinion.

"If you are hurt doing Volunteer Assignments" If that is their (The Union's) take (Being injured off the job) shouldn't it state that you shouldn't be allowed to do ANY work off the job then? I know a lot of union guys that work side jobs, most everyone actually, and being a roofer or carpenter, you could fall off a ladder doing a side job and get hurt. How is that different ?