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If it is, in fact, Flint firefighters behind this, then it is disturbing. The fact that any fire can lead to the injuries and possibly the deaths of our brothers should be enough to sway the normal, rational firefighter not to light a fire - ever. Two brothers were hurt fighting these fires. If one of them got killed, have you proved your point? I feel for the firefighters that have been laid off (as well as the cops) but torching vacants is not the way to get the attention of the public or the city fathers. Try taking photos of all of the City's loved ones and ask them how they would feel if a fire broke out in their homes, and your FD lacked the manpower / resources to stop a fire and save their families. That might get their attention... I really hope the firefighters are not doing these arsons, and I'll remain confident that the Flint brothers know right from wrong.
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Photo from JT "Onlocation" Camp of the Ossining fire 3/23/10 at 135 South Highland Avenue.
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Lohud.com Article
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Update from Lohud.com
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Additional from Lohud.com today Lohud.com
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Who cares what mottos rigs have on them. If the people riding that apparatus are proud of what it says on it, then so be it. Why get upset? I can understand if it is derogatory or otherwise inappropriate, but this isn't. I hear people on the radio all day making announcements and dispatching calls - do I get offended? Nope. I could care less. To be a professional requires experience, education and a reassuring presence, not a paycheck. PS - you can slap whatever VOLUNTEER logo you want on your rigs, most people don't read them anyway. Some have no idea what they're getting when they call 911. A prime example was about a year ago, we responded to A VILLAGE BOARD MEMBER'S HOUSE and she asked, "Are all these trucks ours?" Why yes, moron, they are, and two more are sitting in quarters because they weren't dispatched on this call.
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From Lohud.com 2 girls charged with arson in St. Patrick's Day blaze in Ossining This kind of pisses me off. The brothers from Ossining made their usual aggressive push into this home, and reported to us that the floor was partially burnt through in the 2nd level bedroom. What if one of the OFD guys went thru? Give these two a--holes the stiffest penalty possible!
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The fact that this fire happened at 3pm and a victim had to be pulled from it should be a reminder to all of us that house fires don't just have occupants at 3AM. Out of curiosity, where in the home was this victim located? Thanks, and good work New Hamburg FD!
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I have his "Command and Control of Fires and Emergencies" in my Library (see: Bathroom). Great read. Got that, Norman's Fire Officer's Handbook of Tactics and others too. Great pics!!! I echo the comments too that the YFD did a great job keeping this fire from getting into the exposures.
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The dolphin died. Nothing funny about it. Now there's a whole school without a porpoise.
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I don't care what anybody says, there is no perfect accountability system. Career departments, let's use FDNY as an example, have a better system then us in vollywood, but I bet it has it's flaws. Someone PLEASE correct me if I am wrong, but haven't their been FF LODDs in NYC where the brother was unaccounted for, for several minutes? I can't remember the exact case, but one incident I recall involved a FF LODD in a basement of a PD, where it took several minutes to realize he was missing? Again, please correct me if I am wrong. I'm not knocking anyone by any means, I am just trying to prove that bad things happen to good people and in some cases, we don't know about it until it is too late.
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I sent you a PM, Chief.
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Date: 3/17/10 Time: 03:52 Location: 7 Jenkens Court (Cross of Havell Street) Frequency: 46.26 / Fire 12 / Fireground 3 OFD Units Operating: 2331, 2332, 2334, E96, E97, E98, E99, L41, L42, R14 CFD Units Operating: 2082, E119 FAST MFD Units Operating: 2251, R36 Cascade Other Units Operating: WCDES Battalion 12, Ossining EMS 74A1, Ossining PD, Con Ed Weather Conditions: Cool, clear Description Of Incident: Fire on 2nd floor of two-story private dwelling. Reporters: Remember585 (O/S) Writer: Remember585 03:54 - 2334 requesting Croton FAST, PD on location with working fire. 03:55 - Croton FAST, Battalion 12 dispatched. 03:57 - 2082 responding. 04:00 - E119 responding. 04:06 - 2082, 2084, E119 on location. 04:32 - Millwood Cascade dispatched. 04:39 - 2251 responding. 04:41 - R36 responding. 05:25 - Croton units taking up.
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"Him's just a little guy!" Glad to see you went with a practical rig, but where is Novo putting the DJ equipment?!
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X635 Photos of TL15
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I will give them credit for one thing... at least they put the line between the car and the building. A question to the Mississippi guys on here... is red lights and siren standard issue on all Ducks Unlimited vehicles?
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One photo snapped and given to me at the time I arrived.
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See my last comment.
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Yeah...I was a little tired when I wrote this so after looking it over I realized I explained it wrong. Yes, 5" was used at the hydrant. A 3" backup was connected "in case" we had 5" issues. The first arriving Engine also dropped their 3" with the 5" on the way up the driveway. Hopefully that makes more sense. It's easier to explain things when I'm actually awake...
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Conventional chains. And I agree with you.
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The driveway is long, windy and uphill. Luckily E118 had their chains on, because even though the driveway was plowed to fit a car, the width of the apparatus was larger, so the tires were digging in the snow to climb the hill. E118 stopped about 700' up the driveway and stretched their lines (rougly 200 - 300' each) to the fire building. One line went on to the roof of the large garage to hit the 2nd floor, the other to the front door. The fire appeared to have started on the first floor and went up the stairwell to the second floor. The first floor had holes just inside the front door, the stairs were almost gone, the second floor was fully involved and the roof was gone on my arrival. To add to it, there was a BBQ grill on the garage roof, which was used like a patio area, and one of the tanks let go on my arrival, thus why I said the fire was gas fed. It wasn't until we knocked down the bulk of the fire that I realized what it actually was. All of the hydrants in the area were buried in snow, which had to be dug out. To add to things, the pressure was so low (the tanks are below this location and it's the end of the system) that we couldn't rely on our 5" LDH so 3" had to be used. I called for our "Tanker Task Force" to bring more water, which greatly assisted us by way of nursing. The first two lines made a big impact using just tank water, and the established water supplies aided in the overall extinguishment of this fire. While the water supply was being worked on, tank water from the Engines was used. We used between 50 - 75 gallons of foam to ensure all was extinguished as well at the end. Even though we had over 40 members on scene, plus another 30 or so from Mutual Aid, we were behind on this fire before we even got called. We heard from people that this fire was visible on the Tappan Zee Bridge, and many Mutual Aid units (and our own) saw it from miles away because of where it was located. I saw it from a distance and gave the "10-75." Unfortunately, the family dog perished. Units on scene: Croton FD: 2082, E118, E119, E120, TL44, T10 (R18 OOS) Ossining FD: 2332, 2334, E98, U51 FAST Buchanan FD: 2551, 2553, U12 CASCADE Millwood FD: 2252, T15 Yorktown FD: T14 Continental Village FD: 2131, 2133, T11 Croton EMS: 5513, 55B2 Cortlandt VAC: 88B3 Ossining EMS: 36M1, 7405 Pleasantville VAC: Rehab Unit WCDES: Battalion 10, EMS 11, C&O Zone 4 Relocated to Croton Station 3: Montrose E123, Briarcliff TL40 And yeah, I said "Castle looking structure." I wasn't sure how else to describe it... I tried attaching a Bing image, but I'm having no luck...
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Fire #1 87 Brook Street "Nappy Auto Collision & Repair" Croton FD Units: 2082, 2083, E118, E119, E120, TL44, R18 Montrose FD Units: 2271, TL8 Ossining FD Units: 2332, 2334, E98, U51 (FAST) Buchanan FD Units: 2553, U12 (Cascade) Croton EMS: 5511, 55B2 Cortlandt EMS: 88B2 Ossining EMS: 36M1, 7405 WCDES: Battalion 10, C&O Zone 4 RELOCATED TO CROTON: Montrose E123, Yorktown L51 Info: CFD full assignment dispatched at 16:09 for heavy smoke coming from the building. CPD (who could see it from their HQ) updated as working fire right after dispatch. Fire in rear of 100 x 150 two story autobody shop with apartment above. Cars 2082 & 2083, E118 on location within 3 minutes, E119 & TL44 one minute after, E120 & R18 two minutes after that. Crews made entry and put two 2 1/2" lines to work, while simultaneously opened up the roof on the single story shop garage, conducted searches and laddered the building with portable ladders. (Truck had no access due to downed wires and trees). A 2nd Truck was requested (Montrose TL8) to position in the rear on Terrace Place and to assist opening up. Main body of fire knocked down 20 minutes after arrival, under control 40 minutes after arrival. Mutual Aid companies picked up at 17:25, all units off the scene at 18:52. One occupant to the hospital with smoke inhalation. Fire #2 702 Half Moon Bay Drive Croton FD Units: 2084, E120 Montrose FD Units: 2271, 2274, E123 (Cancelled en route & sent back to CFD for coverage) Yorktown FD Units: 2534, L51 Ossining FD Units: 2332, 2334, E97, E98, U51 (FAST) (Cancelled en route) Croton EMS: 55B2 Cortlandt EMS: Cancelled en route WCDES: Battalion 10 (AKA 2084) & C&O Zone 4 Info: CFD, E123 and L51 dispatched for a basement fire at 18:11. E120 & L51 on location at 18:16 with smoke showing and sprinkler activated. Initial crews found fire in basement level being contained by sprinkler, 10-75 requested. 2084 had the command, L51 had the aerial to the roof as a precaution. The 10-75 assignment was cancelled enroute as the fire was knocked down quick. 1 L/S/O - fire contained to basement level storage room. All units up at 19:45. On behalf of the Croton FD, THANK YOU to Ossining FD, Montrose FD, Yorktown FD, Buchanan FD, Croton EMS, Croton PD, Croton DPW, Cortlandt VAC, Ossining EMS and of course - 60 Control - for an awesome job! Thanks for the continued support.
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Man, I would love to have a training facility like that at our disposal! I like the statue, reminds me of CFD320...
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From what I read it's about 200 hours: Fairfield Fire School
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To my co-workers at 60 Control: GREAT JOB! We ran about 40 calls from 16:00 - 04:00 starting on Thursday, and you guys were answering us and helping us get things done, especially when our PD lost their power. Thank you on behalf of the Croton Fire Department. As a side note, thanks to those of you that were working during our two fires on Friday. It made it a hell of a lot easier for us to run our scenes without having to ask for things over and over again. Thanks! 2082 / 642